William PLANTAGENET WARREN [Parents] was born in 1166 in Surrey, Eng. He died on 27 May 1240 in Surry., Eng.. He was buried in Lewes, Sussex, England. He married Maud (Matilda) MARSHALL in 1225 in Surrey, England.
Maud (Matilda) MARSHALL [Parents] was born about 1192 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She was christened in Sep 1201. She died on 27 Mar 1248. She was buried in Tintern Abbey, Chapel Hill, Monmouthshire, England. She married William PLANTAGENET WARREN in 1225 in Surrey, England.
Other marriages:BIGOD, Hugh Le
They had the following children:
F i Margaret WARREN was born in 1227 in Of Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales. F ii Isabel Plantagenet WARREN was born in 1229 in Warren, , Sussex, England. M iii John PLANTAGENET DE WARENNE was born in Aug 1231. He died on 27 Sep 1305.
Hugh Hugues X De LUSIGNAN [Parents] was born about 1183 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. He died in 1249 in Surrey, England. He married Isabella De TAILLEFER in May 1217/1220 in , , , England.
Isabella De TAILLEFER [Parents] was born about 1180 in Of, Angouleme, Charente, France. She died on 31 May 1245/1246 in Fontevrault Abbey, Fontevrault, Maine-Et-Loire, France. She was buried in Fontevrault Abbey, Fontevrault, Maine-Et-Loire, France. She married Hugh Hugues X De LUSIGNAN in May 1217/1220 in , , , England.
Other marriages:ENGLAND, John "Lackland" King Of
BURGH, Hubert
They had the following children:
F i Agatha Agnes De LUSIGNAN was born about 1230 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. She died on 12 Jan 1299. F ii Marguerite De LUSIGNAN was born about 1228 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. She died in 1283. F iii Isabella De LUSIGNAN was born about 1228 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. She died in 1283. M iv Hugh XI De LUSIGNAN was born in 1220 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. He died in 1250/1260 in , , , Egypt. M v Geoffrey De LUSIGNAN was born about 1224 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. He died before Jul 1263. M vi Guy De LUSIGNAN was born about 1222 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. He died on 14 May 1264 in , Lewes, Sussex, England. M vii Guillaume De LUSIGNAN VALENCE was born in 1225 in Cistercian Abbey, Valence, Charente, France. He died before 18 May 1296. M viii Aymer Ademar De LUSIGNAN was born about 1228 in Of, Lusignan, Vienne, France. He died on 4 Dec 1260 in , Paris, Seine, France. He was buried in , Paris, Seine, France. F ix Alice LUSIGNAN DE BRIEN was born about 1224. She died on 9 Feb 1291.
Hamelin PLANTAGENET [Parents] was born in 1130 in Normandy, France. He died in Apr 1202 in England. He was buried in Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, England. He married Isabel De WARENNE in Apr 1164 in E. Surry., Eng..
Isabel De WARENNE [Parents] was born in 1137 in Surrey, Eng. She died on 13 Jul 1199 in Lewes, Sussex, England. She was buried in Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, Eng. She married Hamelin PLANTAGENET in Apr 1164 in E. Surry., Eng..
They had the following children:
F i Ida (Isabel) PLANTAGENET was born about 1154. F ii Miss PLANTAGENET was born about 1170. M iii Jeffrey WARREN was born about 1160 in <Of, Norfolk, Norfolk, England>. F iv Adela (Ela) PLANTAGENET was born in 1162 in , , Surrey, England. F v Maud PLANTAGENET WARENNE was born in 1163 in Surrey, Eng. M vi William PLANTAGENET WARREN was born in 1166. He died on 27 May 1240. F vii Margaret PLANTAGENET was born in 1170 in , , Surrey, Eng. F viii Miss PLANTAGENET was born in 1172 in , , Surrey, Eng.
Hugh Le BIGOD [Parents] was born about 1186 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, England. He was christened in Of, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. He died on 18 Feb 1225 in England. He was buried on 11 Feb 1224 in Thetford Church, Thetford, Norfolk, England. He married Maud (Matilda) MARSHALL before 1207 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales.
Maud (Matilda) MARSHALL [Parents] was born about 1192 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She was christened in Sep 1201. She died on 27 Mar 1248. She was buried in Tintern Abbey, Chapel Hill, Monmouthshire, England. She married Hugh Le BIGOD before 1207 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales.
Other marriages:PLANTAGENET, William WARREN
They had the following children:
M i Ralph BIGOD was born about 1208 in Of, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. M ii Roger BIGOD was born about 1212 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, Eng Or Of Framlingham, Suffolk, England. He died on 3/04 Jul 1270 in Thetford, Norfolk, England. He was buried on 4 Jul 1270 in Thetford, Norfolk, England. M iii John BIGOD was born about 1214 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, England. He died after 1236. M iv Hugh BIGOD was born about 1215 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, England. He died in 1266. M v William Le BIGOD was born about 1218 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, England. M vi Simon Le BIGOD was born about 1220 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, England. He died before 1271. F vii Isabel BIGOD was born about 1222. She died in 1239.
William MARSHALL [Parents] was born in 1144/1146 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He was christened on 12 May 1146. He died on 14 May 1219 in Caversham Manor, , , England. He was buried in May 1219 in Round Chapel Of Knight's Temple, London, Middlesex, England. He married Isabel Fitzgilbert De CLARE in Aug 1189 in London, Middlesex, England.
Isabel Fitzgilbert De CLARE [Parents] was born about 1172 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She died in 1220 in , Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She was buried in Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, England. She married William MARSHALL in Aug 1189 in London, Middlesex, England.
They had the following children:
F i Isabel MARSHALL was born in 1206 in Of, , Pembrokeshire, Wales. She was christened in Apr 1206 in , St. David's, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She died on 16 Jan 1240 in , Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England. She was buried in , Beaulieu, Southampton, England. F ii Maud (Matilda) MARSHALL was born about 1192. She died on 27 Mar 1248. F iii Eve MARSHALL was born about 1194. She died before 1246. F iv Sibyl MARSHALL was born in 1209 in Of Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She was christened in 1209 in , St. David's, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She died on 27 Apr 1245. M v Anselm MARSHALL was born about 1204 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died on 22 Dec 1245 in , Chepstow. He was buried in , Tinton Abbey. F vi Margaret MARSHALL was born about 1190 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. F vii Joane MARSHALL was born about 1202 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She died about 1234. M viii Walter MARSHALL was born about 1206 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died on 24 Nov 1245 in Goodrich Castle, London, Middlesex, England. He was buried in , Tintern, Abbey, England. M ix Gilbert MARSHALL was born about 1196 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He was christened in 1203 in , St. David's, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died on 27 Jun 1241 in , Hertford, Hertfordshire, England. He was buried in Temple Church, London, Middlesex, England. M x Richard MARSHALL was born about 1200 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died on 16 Apr 1234 in Kilkenny, Castle, Kildare, Ireland. He was buried on 17 Apr 1234 in , Kilkenny, Kildare, Ireland. M xi William MARSHALL was born in May 1198 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died on 11 Apr 1222 in Sp. He was buried on 15 Apr 1231 in Temple Church, London, Middlesex, England.
Geoffrey V "le Bon" PLANTAGENET [Parents] was born on 24 Aug 1113 in Anjou, France. He died on 7 Sep 1151 in Chateau, France. He married Mrs-Geoffrey V, [Concubine PLANTAGENET.
Other marriages:GERMANY, Matilda (Maud) Empress Of
Mrs-Geoffrey V, [Concubine PLANTAGENET was born about 1112 in Of, , Normandy, France. She married Geoffrey V "le Bon" PLANTAGENET.
They had the following children:
M i Hamelin PLANTAGENET was born in 1130. He died in Apr 1202.
William III De WARENNE WARREN [Parents] was born about 1110 in Of Vermandois, Normandy, France. He died in 1148 in Laodicea. He married Adelia De TALVAS TALVACE.
Adelia De TALVAS TALVACE [Parents] was born about 1110 in Of Sussex, England. She was christened in Alencon, France. She died in 1174. She married William III De WARENNE WARREN.
They had the following children:
F i Isabel De WARENNE was born in 1137. She died on 13 Jul 1199.
Roger BIGOD [Parents] was born about 1150 in Of, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. He was christened in Of, Framlingham, Suffolk, England. He died before 2 Aug 1221 in Thetford, Norfolk, England. He was buried in Thetford, Norfolk, England. He married Ida (Isabel) PLANTAGENET about 1185.
Ida (Isabel) PLANTAGENET [Parents] was born about 1154 in Of, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. She married Roger BIGOD about 1185.
They had the following children:
M i Hugh Le BIGOD was born about 1186. He died on 18 Feb 1225. M ii William Le BIGOD was born about 1188 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. M iii Thomas Le BIGOD was born about 1190 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. He died in 1240. F iv Alice (Adeliza) BIGOD was born about 1192 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, England. F v Margaret (Margery) BIGOD was born about 1194 in Of, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. She died on 31 Mar 1237. F vi Mary BIGOD was born about 1196 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. M vii Roger Le BIGOD was born about 1198 in Of, Thetford, Norfolk, Norfolk, England. M viii Ralph BIGOD was born about 1201 in <Of, Thetford, Norfolk, Norfolk, England>.
John "Lackland" King Of ENGLAND [Parents] was born on 24 Dec 1166 in Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England. He died on 19 Oct 1216 in , Newark, Nottinghamshire, England. He was buried in Cathedral, Worcester, Worcestershire, England. He was not married to Miss PLANTAGENET at Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England.
Other marriages:TAILLEFER, Isabella De
, Clementia
FERRERS, Agatha De
GIFFORD, Matilda
ENGLAND, Mrs-John Concubine Of
ENGLAND, Mrs-John Concubine Of
FITZWARIN, Hawisa
ENGLAND, Mrs-John, Concubine Of
DE WARRENE,
DE WARRENE, Miss
, Clementia
, Clementia
, Clementia
The following is a list of eleven bastard children of King John of
England which I've assembled from a variety of sources. If anyone has
any additions or corrections to this material, please let me know.
The first two children listed, Richard Fitz Roy (or de Warenne), Baron
of Chilham, Kent, and Joan, wife of Llywelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of
North Wales, have many modern descendants.Although sometimes questioned, I accept Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz
Ives, Knt., as a bastard daughter of King John. Isabel appears to
have modern descendants. Besides Isabel, I've also included a new
bastard child for King John not commonly found on such lists, namely
Maud Fitz Roy, Abbess of Barking, whose identity is proven by the
sources cited below.Sidney Painter, King John's historian, says of him: ".... cruel,
lecherous, and deceitful." Surely the number of illegitimate children
listed below for King John proves the lecherous part.Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
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BASTARD CHILDREN OF KING JOHN OF ENGLANDIllegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, _____ de
Warenne:i. RICHARD FITZ ROY (or DE WARENNE), Knt., Baron of Chilham, Kent,
married ROSE DE DOVER [see ATHOLL 4].Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, Clemence _____:
i. JOAN OF ENGLAND, married LLYWELYN AP IORWERTH, Prince of North
Wales [see WAKE 4].Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, Hawise _____:
i. OLIVER FITZ ROY. He defended Wolvesey Castle for Peter des Roches,
Bishop of Winchester, in 1216. In 1217 he was granted the lands
formerly held by Peter Fitz Herbert to sustain him in the king';s
service. In 1218 he arrived with other English knights at Damietta in
the company of Papal legate, Pelayo. He did not return. H.R. Luard,
Chronica Majora 3 (1876): 40-41. C.P.R., 1216-1225 (1901), pp.
42-43,92. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR
119 (1965): 94-102. J.M. Powell, Anatomy of a Crusade (1986), pg.
235. N. Vincent, Peter des Roches (1996), pp. 71,175.Illegitimate children of John of England, by an unknown mistress (or
mistresses):i. ISABEL FITZ ROY, married RICHARD FITZ IVES, Knt., lord of Degembris
(in Newlyn East), Cornwall. They had two sons, William Fitz Richard,
Knt. (of Degembris and Penhallow [both in Newlyn East], Lanisley, and
Rosneython [in St. Keverne]) and Richard Fitz Richard (clerk), and one
daughter, Isabel (wife of Belyn Hellegan, Knt.). He gave tithes in
Gruguth (in St. Keverne), Cornwall. SIR RICHARD FITZ IVES died in
1207. Modern descendants (not traced in this book). Herald and
Genealogist 7 (1873): 229-231. Sir John Maclean, Parochial and Family
Hist. of the Deanery of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): 317. J.L. Vivian,
Visitations of Cornwall (1887), pg. 30. J.H. Rowe, Cornwall Feet of
Fines 1 (1914): 17,49,54-55,58-59,91-92,171,438-440. NEHGR 119
(1965): 94-102. Harleian MS. 4031, ff. 76b,81 (not seen).ii. JOHN FITZ ROY, evidently a clerk, supported by the custodians of
the see of Lincoln in 1201. D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe
Michaelmas 1201 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 14) (1936), pp.
xix,192-193. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233.
NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102.iii. GEOFFREY FITZ ROY. In 1204 he received a loan by the pledge of
William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury, and Peter de Stokes. In 1205 he
led an expedition into Poitou and died the same year. Curia Regis
Rolls 3 (1926): 321 (suit dated 1205: "... quam diu predictus Radulfus
[de Trublevill] fuerit in servicio nostro in Pictavia cum Gaufrido
filio nostro"). D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe Michaelmas 1204
(Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 18) (1940), pp.
xxxv-xxxvj,xlj,33,60,87,131. D.M. Stenton Great Roll of the Pipe
Michaelmas 1205 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 19) (1941), pp.
xviij-xix,19,79-80. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp.
232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102.iv. HENRY FITZ ROY, Knt., of Waltham, Ashby, Brigsley, Gonerby (in
Hatcliffe), Hawerby, and North Coates, co. Lincoln, and Chilham, Kent.
He was sent as a student to the Prior of Kenilworth in 1207. In 1215
he was granted the lands of Robert Fitz Walter in Cornwall. In 1217
he and Ralph de Raleigh were granted the manor of Waltham, co. Lincoln
to sustain them in royal service. In 1231 he was granted all of the
land of Henry de la Vaugoz, a Norman, in the soke of Waltham, co.
Lincoln. He married before 1236 EVE DE WHITCHURCH, widow of William
de Champernoun (living 1230), of Umberleigh (in Atherington) and High
Bickington, Devon, and daughter and heiress of Reynold de Whitchurch,
of Shrivenham and Winterbourne (in Chieveley), co. Berks, by his 1st
wife, Alice, daughter and co-heiress of Nicholas de Bolney. They had
no issue. SIR HENRY FITZ ROY died shortly before 8 Apr. 1245. His
widow, Eve, married (3rd) before 30 June 1252 Giles de Clifford
(living 1276). C.Ch.R. 1 (1895): 137. J.L. Vivian, Visitations of
the County of Devon (1895), pp. 160. Book of Fees 1: 362,617; 2
(1923): 660,675,1021. C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 20,296,450.
C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pg. 511. VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 63,533.
C.C.R., 1251-1253 (1927), pg. 116. S. Painter, Reign of King John
(1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. C.P. 12 Pt. 2 (1959):
645 (sub Wilington). Curia Regis Rolls 13 (1959): 514; 15 (1972):
83,449. S.D. Church, Household Knights of King John (1999), pg. 127.v. OSBERT GIFFORD. In 1215 he received the lands of Thomas de Ardern
in Oxfordshire. In 1216 he likewise received Ardern's lands in
Norfolk, Suffolk, and Sussex. In 1216 he and his wife received safe
conduct to confer with King John. His subsequent history is unknown.
Ancestor 3 (1902): 227 (his arms: Ermine, 2 bars gules, a chief gules
with a leopard or in chief). Genealogist n.s. 28 (1922): 128-129. S.
Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965):
94-102.vi. EUDES FITZ ROY, of Canewdon, Essex. In 1233 he was granted lands
in Aldbury, co. Hertford. He had an exchequer fee iof £20 granted to
him in 1237. In 1240 he joined his half-brother, Richard, Earl of
Cornwall on a crusade to the Holy Land. EUDES FITZ ROY died there
testate shortly before 21 Jan. 1241/2. His lands in Essex were
granted to Giles de Chanceaus in 1242. No known descendants. G.
Oliver, Monasticon Diocesis Exonienses (1846), pg. 23. C.C.R.,
1231-1234 (1905), pg. 210. C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 179,270,314.
C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pp. 387,532. Cal. Liberate Rolls 1 (1916),
pg. 263. N. Denholm-Young, Richard of Cornwall (1947), pp. 41,112.vii. BARTHOLOMEW FITZ ROY, clerk, papal chaplain, member of the order
of Friars Preachers, living Aug. 1254. Papal Registers: Letters 1
(1893): 281,286,305.viii. MAUD FITZ ROY, nun, elected Abbess of Barking 5 Aug. 1247; died
shortly before 6 Feb. 1252. Sir William Dugdale, Monasticon
Anglicanum 1 (1817): 437,441. VCH Essex 2 (1907): 120.Signed Magna Carta in 1215
The statement in the legitimization of Joan, daughter of king
John and wife of prince Llywelyn, that each of her parents were
unmarried at the time of her birth, does not imply she was born
prior to John's first marriage, to Isabelle de Clare in 1189.
This marriage had been annulled by the time of Joan's
legitimization, and would have been considered by the clerics
not to have occurred.It might be that the legitimization does imply that, by the
time of John's second marriage, to Isabelle of Angouleme, that
Joan's mother was either dead or had become a nun, otherwise the
legitimacy of king Henry III might have been called into
question.It might also be that the reference in Joan's obituary to her
mother as "queen Clementia" implies that Clemence, mother of
Joan, did not die or become a nun until after John's accession.I suspect that in the minds of the monks and clerics who
recorded things, these annulments and legitimizations created a
virtual world in which annulled real world marriages did not
exist, and appropriate legitimizing marriages did exist, with
all appropriate side effect implications, including Clemence
having been queen..- Paul K. Davis - paulkdavis@earthlink.net
Please find below a revised listing of the bastard children of King
John. The list has been augmented by many new references,
corrections, and additions since my last posting of this listing. The
new listing includes Philip "Fiz Le Rey" [i.e., Philip the king's
son]) found in a 1263 Sussex fine as a possible bastard child of King
John.Also, it appears there may be a link between Isabel, wife of Richard
Fitz Ives, and another royal bastard, Eudes Fitz Roy. I've learned
that in 1245, Isabel's son and heir, William Fitz Ives, sued Giles de
Chanceaux regarding property in Cornwall. This is surely the same man
who was granted Eudes Fitz Roy's properties in Essex on his death
without issue in 1242. The Fitz Ives and Chanceaux link deserves
further study.Comments are invited.
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REVISED LISTING OF BASTARD CHILDREN OF KING JOHN OF ENGLAND:
Legitimated child of John of England, by a mistress, Clemence _____:
Illegitimate child of John of England, by a mistress, _____ de
Warenne, daughter of Hamelin, 5th Earl of Surrey, by Isabel, daughter
and heiress of William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey [see WARENNE 2]:i. OLIVER FITZ ROY. He defended Wolvesey Castle for Peter des Roches,
Bishop of Winchester, in 1216. In 1217 he was granted the lands
formerly held by Peter Fitz Herbert to sustain him in the king's
service. In 1218 he arrived with other English knights at Damietta in
the company of Papal legate, Pelayo. He did not return. H.R. Luard,
Chronica Majora 3 (1876): 40-41. C.P.R., 1216-1225 (1901), pp.
42-43,92. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR
119 (1965): 94-102. J.M. Powell, Anatomy of a Crusade (1986), pg.
235. N. Vincent, Peter des Roches (1996), pp. 71,175.i. JOHN FITZ ROY, evidently a clerk, supported by the custodians of
the see of Lincoln in 1201. D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe
Michaelmas 1201 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 14) (1936), pp.
xix,192-193. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233.
NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102.ii. GEOFFREY FITZ ROY. In 1204 he received a loan by the pledge of
William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury, and Peter de Stokes. In 1205 he
led an expedition into Poitou and died the same year. Curia Regis
Rolls 3 (1926): 321 (suit dated 1205: " ... quam diu predictus
Radulfus [de Trublevill] fuerit in servicio nostro in Pictavia cum
Gaufrido filio nostro"). D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe
Michaelmas 1204 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 18) (1940), pp.
xxxv-xxxvj,xlj,33,60,87,131. D.M. Stenton, Great Roll of the Pipe
Michaelmas 1205 (Pipe Roll Soc., n.s., vol. 19) (1941), pp.
xviij-xix,19,79-80. S. Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp.
232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102.iii. HENRY FITZ ROY, Knt., of Waltham, Ashby, Brigsley, Gonerby (in
Hatcliffe), Hawerby, and North Coates, co. Lincoln, and Chilham, Kent.
He was sent as a student to the Prior of Kenilworth in 1207. In 1215
he was granted the lands of Robert Fitz Walter in Cornwall. In 1217
he and Ralph de Raleigh were granted the manor of Waltham, co. Lincoln
formerly held by Alan Fitz Count to sustain them in royal service. In
1231 he was granted all of the land of Henry de Avaugor, a Norman, in
Waltham, co. Lincoln. He married before 1236 EVE DE BLANCHMINSTER (or
WHITCHURCH), widow of William de Champernoun (living 1230), of
Umberleigh (in Atherington) and High Bickington, Devon, and daughter
and heiress of Reynold de Blanchminster (or Whitchurch) (living 1248),
of Shrivenham and Winterbourne (in Chieveley), co. Berks, and Bolney,
co. Oxford, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter and co-heiress of
Nicholas de Bolney. They had no issue. SIR HENRY FITZ ROY died
shortly before 8 Apr. 1245. His widow, Eve, married (3rd) before 30
June 1252 Giles de Clifford (living 1276). C.Ch.R. 1 (1895): 137
(styled "Henry the king's brother"). J.L. Vivian, Visitations of the
County of Devon (1895), pp. 160. C.P.R., 1216-1225 (1901), pp. 128,
574 ("Henricus filius regis"). C.C.R., 1227-1231 (1902), pg. 51.
C.P.R., 1225-1232 (1903), pp. 311 ("Henricus frater regis"), 357,441.
C.C.R., 1234-1237 (1908), pg. 219 ("Henrico fratri regis"). Book of
Fees 1 (1920): 362 ("Henricus frater regis"), 617 ("Henricus filius
regis"); 2 (1923): 660,675,1021 (instances of "Henricus filius
Regis"). C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 20,296,450. C.C.R., 1237-1242
(1911), pg. 511 ("Henricum filium regis"). VCH Berkshire 3 (19??):
424; 4 (1924): 63,513,533. C.C.R., 1251-1253 (1927), pg. 116. S.
Painter, Reign of King John (1949), pp. 232-233. C.P. 12 Pt. 2
(1959): 645 (sub Wilington). Curia Regis Rolls 13 (1959): 138,215,283
("Henricus filius regis John"), 290,364-365,371,514,542; 15 (1972):
83,449 (styled "Henricum filium le Rey"). R.A. Brown, Memoranda Roll
for the Tenth Year of the Reign of King John (1207-8) (Pipe Roll Soc.,
n.s., vol. 31) (1957), pg. 137 (Henry called "our son" [filio nostro]
by King John). NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. B.R. Kemp, Reading Abbey
Cartularies 1 (Camden, 4th ser., vol. 31) (1986): 375. S.D. Church,
Household Knights of King John (1999), pg. 127.iv. OSBERT GIFFORD, Knt. In 1215 he received the lands of Thomas de
Ardern in Oxfordshire. In 1216 he likewise received Ardern's lands in
Bundes, Norfolk, and elsewhere in Suffolk, Essex, and Sussex, and the
lands of Aumary Despenser, Roger Fitz Nicholas, and Ralph Bluet in
Oxfordshire. SIR OSBERT GIFFORD died in 1248. Ancestor 3 (1902): 227
(his arms: Ermine two bars gules, on a chief gules a leopard or).
Genealogist n.s. 28 (1922): 128-129. S. Painter, Reign of King John
(1949), pp. 232-233. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. T.D. Tremlett, Rolls
of Arms Henry III (Harleian Soc. Pub., vols. 113-114) (1967), pg. 47.v. EUDES (or IVES) FITZ ROY, of Canewdon, Essex. In 1233 he was
granted lands in Aldbury, co. Hertford. He had an exchequer fee of
£20 granted to him in 1237. In the period, c. 1227/41, he witnessed a
charter for his brother, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, to Launceston
Priory in Cornwall. In 1240 he joined Earl Richard on a crusade to
the Holy Land. EUDES FITZ ROY died there testate shortly before 21
Jan. 1241/2. His lands in Essex were granted to Giles de Chanceaux in
1242. No known descendants. G. Oliver, Monasticon Diocesis
Exonienses (1846), pg. 23. C.C.R., 1231-1234 (1905), pg. 210 ("Eudoni
filio regis"). C.P.R., 1232-1247 (1906), pp. 179 ("Eudo the king's
brother"), 270 ("Eudo son of R. the king's brother"), 314 ("Eudo the
king's brother"). C.C.R., 1237-1242 (1911), pp. 73 ("Eudoni fratri
regis"), 386-387 ("Eudonis fratris regis"), 387 ("Ivonis fratris
domini regis"), 532 ("Eudonis fratris nostri"). Cal. Liberate Rolls 1
(1916), pg. 263. N. Denholm-Young, Richard of Cornwall (1947), pp.
41,112. P.L. Hull, Cartulary of Launceston Priory (Devon & Cornwall
Rec. Soc., n.s., vol. 30) (1987) 12 ("Yvo brother of the earl"
[Richard, Earl of Cornwall]).vi. BARTHOLOMEW FITZ ROY, clerk, papal chaplain, member of the order
of Friars Preachers, living Aug. 1254. Papal Registers: Letters 1
(1893): 281,286,305.vii. MAUD FITZ ROY, nun, elected Abbess of Barking 5 Aug. 1247; died
shortly before 6 Feb. 1252. Sir William Dugdale, Monasticon
Anglicanum 1 (1817): 437,441 ("Dame Maud la file le Roy John"). VCH
Essex 2 (1907): 120.Alleged illegitimate child of John of England, by an unknown mistress,
_____:i. ISABEL FITZ ROY, married RICHARD FITZ IVES, Knt., lord of Degembris
(in Newlyn East), Cornwall. They had two sons, William Fitz Richard,
Knt. (of Degembris and Penhallow [both in Newlyn East], Lanisley (in
Gulival), and Rosneython and Trenoweth-Chammon [both in St. Keverne])
and Richard Fitz Richard (clerk), and one daughter, Isabel (wife of
Belyn Hellegan, Knt.). He gave tithes in Gruguth (in St. Keverne),
Cornwall. SIR RICHARD FITZ IVES allegedly died in 1207. Modern
descendants (not traced). Herald and Genealogist 7 (1873): 229-231
(Isabel styled "filie Regis Joh'is"). Sir John Maclean, Parochial and
Family Hist. of the Deanery of Trigg Minor 1 (1876): 317. J.L.
Vivian, Visitations of Cornwall (1887), pg. 30. G.D. Stawell, A
Quantock Family: The Stawells of Cothelstone and their Descendants
(1910), pp. 44-45. J.H. Rowe, Cornwall Feet of Fines 1 (1914):
17,49,54-55,58-59,91-92,171,438-440. C.R.R. 11 (1955), pg. 473; 12
(1957): 189. NEHGR 119 (1965): 94-102. C.R.R. 18 (1999): 362-363.
Harleian MS. 4031, ff. 76b,81.Possible illegitimate child of John of England, by an unknown
mistress, _____:i. PHILIP FITZ ROY (possible child). In 1263 he and his wife, Lavina,
conveyed lands at Bignor, Pebmarsh, and Petworth, Surrey to Henry Fitz
[le] Roy, perhaps their son. L.F. Salzman, Abstract of Feet of Fines
Relating to the County of Sussex (Sussex Rec. Soc., vol. 7) (1908),
pg. 45 ("Ph[illip]um Fiz Le Rey" [i.e., Philip the king's son]) (cf.
W. Hudson, Three Earliest Subsidies for the County of Sussex in the
Years 1296,1327,1332 (Sussex Rec. Soc., vol. 19) (1910), pp. 73,95
(references to "Henr[icus] fyz le Rey" on 1296 Sussex subsidy).King John had illegitimate children over the entire course of
his adult life. He was a very busy man in the bedroom. One of his
older bastard sons, Geoffrey, received a loan by the pledge of William
Longespée, Earl of Salisbury, and Peter de Stokes in 1204. In 1205 he
led an expedition into Poitou and died the same year. King John
likewise had another illegitimate daughter, Joan, who married before
23 Mar. 1204/5 Llywelyn ap Iowerth, Prince of North Wales.
Consequently, it is possible that King John was the father of Isabel,
wife of Richard Fitz Ives, who allegedly died in 1207. By the way, I
have reason to suppose that Isabel survived Richard Fitz Ives for many
years and remarried.Second, Isabel de Beaupre is not the same person as King John's
bastard daughter, Isabel, wife of Richard Fitz Ives. As best I can
tell, Isabel de Beaupre is a later day descendant and the senior
heiress of the Fitz Ives family. I didn't mean to imply that the two
Isabel's were the same person.
Miss PLANTAGENET [Parents] was born about 1170 in England. She was not married to John "Lackland" King Of ENGLAND at Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England.
John "the Marshall" FITZGILBERT was born about 1105 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died in 1164/1165. He married Sibilla (Sibyl) De SALISBURY about 1143 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales.
Sibilla (Sibyl) De SALISBURY was born about 1139 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. She died on 3 Jun. She married John "the Marshall" FITZGILBERT about 1143 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales.
They had the following children:
F i Maud MARSHALL was born about 1148 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. M ii John MARSHALL was born about 1144 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died in 1194. M iii Anselm MARSHALL was born about 1154 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokshire, Wales. M iv Henry MARSHALL was born about 1156 in Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales. He died in Oct 1206. M v William MARSHALL was born in 1144/1146. He died on 14 May 1219. F vi Margaret FITZGILBERT was born about 1160. She died after 1242. F vii Dau MARSHALL was born about 1152 in <Of, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales>.