Walter CARLSON.Walter married Nellie KAUFFMAN.
Nellie KAUFFMAN [Parents].Nellie married Walter CARLSON. She was related to her parents by adoption.
Oscar LARSON.Oscar married Sarah Elizabeth CASTILE.
Sarah Elizabeth CASTILE [Parents] was born on 8 Jan 1857 in Iowa. She married Oscar LARSON.
Jacob BENGTSSON [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 was born on 30 Jun 1747 in Rusthattet, Kotteby, Ulrika, Ostergotland, Sweden. He died on 11 Feb 1830 in Bjorkeryd, Kisa, Ostergotland, Sweden. He was buried on 21 Feb 1830 in Bjorkeryd, Kisa, Ostergotland, Sweden. He married Elin LARSSON on 26 Oct 1766 in Vastra Eneby, Ostergotland, Sweden.
Elin LARSSON [Parents] 1, 2, 3 was born on 29 Jul 1746 in Rothult, Vastra Eneby, Ostergotland, Sweden. She was christened on 3 Aug 1746 in Rothult, Vastra Eneby, Ostergotland, Sweden. She died in 1802 in Kisa, Ostergotland, Sweden. She married Jacob BENGTSSON on 26 Oct 1766 in Vastra Eneby, Ostergotland, Sweden.
They had the following children:
F i Catharine JACOBSSON was born in 1768. She died on 9 Mar 1809. F ii Ingrid JACOBSDOTTER was born on 16 Apr 1772. M iii Iam JACOBSSON 1, 2 was born on 1 Dec 1778 in Ulrika, Ostergotland, Sweden. F iv Maja Lena JACOBSSON was born on 13 Nov 1783. She died in 1829. F v Brita Lisa Stina JACOBSSON was born on 5 Sep 1787.
Alexander LEE [Parents] 1 was born 2 on 14 Jun 1814 in Philadelphia, PA. He died on 18 May 1887 in Fulton County PA. He was buried in Zion Lutheran Cemetery, Buck Valley, Pennsylvania. He married Sarah Thersa HASSEN about 1835 in Of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Alexander was counted in a census 3 in 1880 in Union, Fulton, Pennsylvania.
Some information from Shirley Bartley suggested that Alexander's children were all born in Philadelphia. However, IGI information indicates otherwise and provides a reasonably detailed pattern of the family's movements. Alexander was married in Philadelphia and his daughter, Margaret Helen was also born there. His son, William was born in Dowington, Chester, Pennsylvania which is just west of Philadelphia. It is not known exactly where Elizabeth was born, but she was probably born in the same place as her siblings: Henry, Mary, Sarah, and John, in Buck Valley, Fulton, Pensylvania. This is in the south central part of the state. Agnes was probably also born in Buck Valley but spent much of her life just to the northwest in Fairview, Bedford, Pennsylvania.
Fulton Co. was created from the eastern part of Bedford Co. in 1850. The IGI indicates that Alexander's siblings, one born before and one after, lived at 69 Cherry Alley, Philadelphia and 18th and Chesnut, Philadelphia respectively. Alexander was probably born at one of these two addresses.Info from Lee Family History, Shirley Bartley, IGI and an internet site.
Alexander Lee. (IGI Birth Record. Film No.: 184289. Page No. 696. Ordinance No.: 15903),
Sarah Thersa HASSEN [Parents] was born 1 in 1815 in Philadelphia, PA. She died on 21 Dec 1891 in Fulton County PA. She was buried in Zion Lutheran Cemetery, Buck Valley PA. She married Alexander LEE about 1835 in Of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Sarah was counted in a census 2 in 1880 in Union, Fulton, Pennsylvania.
Here is the 1850 census record:
Philadelphia Locust Ward, Philadelphia County, PA page 190 enumerated 17 Aug 1850
Alexander LEA 35 M Stone Cutter b. Philadelphia
Sarah T. LEA 35 F b. PA
Margaret 12 F b. PA
William 10 M b. PA
Henry 9 M b. PA
Elizabeth 7 F b. PA
Mary 6 F b. PA
Sarah 4 F b. PA
John 2 M b. PAThe Lee Family History says that she was born in 1808, but the 1850 census says that she was 35 years old, which means that she was born in 1815, which is a more believable date considering the age of her children.
Also, her name here is spelled Lea rather than Lee. One wonders which is correct.
Her name is also spelled Hasson, Harson, Hassin and Hessen. Although her name indicates that she may be related to to the German Hessian soldiers who came to America during the Revolutionary War, her name is more common in Scotland than Germany.
After her husband's death in 1887, Sarah made her home with her eldest son William until her death in 1891 at the age of 82 years. That would place her birth in 1809. Info from Lee Family History and IGI.
Spelling is found on IGI as Hassen and Hessen.
An IGI birth record indicates that Clara Lehman was a relative. Perhaps Sarah's mother's maiden name was Lehman. Another IGI record spells Sarah's middle name Thorsa.
According to the 1880 US Census (transcribed and indexed version) her father was born in Ireland. The name sounds Germanic but a complete search of the 1880 US indexed Census yielded 152 individuals who were born in Ireland with the name Hassen (or variants Hassin, Hasson, Hassan.) A similar search for individuals born in Germany only yielded 29. Thus, we are confident that her father's birth place was Ireland. This census also indicates that her mother was born in Pennsylvania.
The 1880 Census gives her age as 70. If that is exact then she was born in 1810. According to this census her husband, Alexander, was then 64, six years her junior.However, Lee family records provide a 1814 birthdate for him. If that is true then he was only four years her junior.
See more extensive notes under husband.
They had the following children:
F i Margaret Helen LEE was born on 20 Apr 1837. M ii William LEE was born on 12 Dec 1839. He died on 28 Feb 1923. F iii Elizabeth LEE was born on 20 Mar 1841. She died on 2 Jul 1916. M iv Henry R. LEE was born on 2 May 1843. He died on 11 Nov 1914. F v Mary LEE was born on 20 Mar 1845. She died on 22 Dec 1918. F vi Sarah LEE was born on 23 Jul 1846. She died on 3 May 1916. M vii John LEE was born on 29 Apr 1848. He died on 31 Aug 1914. F viii Agnes LEE was born on 23 Jul 1853.
James Thomas GRAHAM [Parents] was born on 8 Oct 1836 in Illinois. He died on 30 Jan 1921 in Summerfield, Marshall County, Kansas. He married Melissa Jane GILCHRIST on 24 Feb 1859 in Henderson County, Illinois.
s: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-
1989" pages 167
Melissa Jane GILCHRIST was born on 7 Oct 1842 in Missouri or Iowa. She died on 13 Apr 1915 in Summerfield, Marshall County, Kansas. She married James Thomas GRAHAM on 24 Feb 1859 in Henderson County, Illinois.
They had the following children:
Richard GARTIN was born about 1760 in Spotsylvania County, Virginia. He died in 1815 in Todd Co., Kentucky. He married Anna KINCAID.
Anna KINCAID.Anna married Richard GARTIN.
They had the following children:
F i Sally C. GARTIN was born on 29 Nov 1798. She died on 29 Jul 1833. M ii Andrew Kincaid GARTIN.
Andrew GRIMBS Graham [Parents] 1, 2 was born about 1753 in County Antrim, Ireland. He died on 11 Mar 1821 in Todd County, Kentucky. He married Margaret COULTER about 1775 in Chester Co., South Carolina.
Other marriages:, Margaret
CHESNUT, Mary
PHILLIPS, Margaret
Andrew Grimbs arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772. In January, 1773 he was granted 100 acres of land in Chester County, South Carolina. The land grant gives his name as Andrew Grimbs, See Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772: (Rev. William Martin and His Five Shiploads of Settlers) by Jean Stephenson, page 74.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/PaFarmer.htm
Later, the family started using the name Graham rather than Grimbs. This has caused controversy among genealogists.
There are doubts and questions about Andrew Graham. Everything about him is doubtful, including his date of birth, the names and number of the wives he had, and which children were by which wife,
There was a criminal case brought in Belfast Ireland in 1772 against a man named Andrew Graham. The index to the Belfast News-Letter shows an Andrew Graham in a list of persons named in relation to a rising or riot at Kilconway, county Antrim reported on page 2 of the edition of 17 March 1772. There are several other mentions of Graham, Andrew in the index, but this was the only one for 1772.
See: http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/
Index to Belfast Newsletter 1737-1800The IGI lists a person named Andrew Grahams who was born 18 SEP 1755 Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland. His mother was Jane and his father was James Grahams. In spite of the differences, this could be the same person.
My great-great-great-grandfather was Andrew Graham who was born in Ireland in "About 1753". His mother was Janet and his father was David Graham. Andrew Grahams was born 18 SEP 1755 and his mother was Jane and his father was James Grahams. In spite of the two years difference in dates, the difference between Janet and Jane and the difference between David Graham and James Grahams, there is enough similarity that further checking is appropriate.
One possibility concerns the fact that my Andrew was the eldest of eight children. When a man died it was customary for his brother to marry the widow. So, it is possible that James died and David the next brother married Jane or Janet. The fact that Andrew had a different father from the others was just never mentioned.
A Graham family history is at http://proni.nics.gov.uk/records/private/graham.htm
The DAR Patriot Index Centennial Edition Part III, (Washington: NSDAR, 1994), page 1203, says:
Andrew: b c 1734 IR d a 5-9-1821 KY m (1)Margaret Coalton (2) Mary Chestnut (3) Margaret ___ Sol PS SC
Andrew Graham arrived in America just in time to serve in the American Revolutionary War.
I have been compiling my family tree. I am taking information mostly compiled by people who are now deceased and putting it into my computer. According to one website, my great-great-great-great-grandmother was named Mary Stuart, who was born in Ireland 1729. http://www.anusha.com/pafg31.htm#906 .
The story that one of the wives of Andrew Graham was descended from the Kings of Scotland has been around since at least 1800. However, I doubt that the story is true. One entry I have come across says that she was the great-great granddaughter of King James I of Scotland, by his second wife, a commoner. However, the Kings of Scotland did not have "second wives" who were commoners. Instead, they had mistresses and bastard children, in great number. The different King James of Scotland often had many mistresses, especially King James IV and King James V.
I have found a brief biography of James I of Scotland (1397-1437). However, he lived too long ago to be the great-great-grandfather of Mary Stuart.They might mean James I of England, who was also James VI of Scotland. It is nevertheless intriguing to think that this Mary Stuart might be part of the famous Stuart Royal Family of England. The name certainly sounds like the name of a member of the British Royal Family.
Mary Stuart was married to Robert Coulter. Robert Coulter was born in Scotland about 1723. He left Scotland 1746-47 after the battle of Culloden. He fought on the side of Bonnie Prince Charles. Seems a price was put his head so he left Scotland.
A website family tree which deals with the descendants of Mary Stuart (but not with her ancestors) is at
http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/tallen/ROBERT/A big problem I have been having with my family tree concerns Andrew Graham, husband of Margaret Coulter, who was the daughter of Mary Stuart. Andrew Graham died in 1821. One group says he was born in 1753 and was married twice. The other group says he was born in 1720, lived to be 101 years old, was married three times and had 11 children and that I am a descendant of the wife in the middle which according to the first group did not exist.
Both sides have documents proving their cases. I tend to favor the side that says he was born in 1753. However, this problem has made it difficult for me to extend my family tree. The other side, which says that Andrew Graham was born in 1720 and died in 1821 at the age of 101, has a website at
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/l/a/Millie-A-Clarke-/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0458.html
I believe that website contains several mistakes. It also makes Andrew Graham older than his father, David Graham.Andrew Graham fought in the American Revolutionary War. Andrew Graham was in the Revolutionary War; was taken prisoner and condemned to death, but the battle of Yorktown and the close of the war saved his life.
This is one of the factors which has led me to believe that he was born in 1753, because that would make him 23 when the war started, a suitable age to be fighting. There is no doubt that he fought in that war, because several applications to join the "Daughters of the American Revolution" have been filed by his descendants.
My great-great-great-great grandfather David Graham came from Ireland with his wife and children on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer which left Belfast 16 October 1772 and arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772.
He arrived just in time to send two of his sons, one of which was my great-great-great grandfather, Andrew Graham, to fight in the American Revolutionary War.
There is one school of thought that Andrew had 3 wives, including Mary Chestnut as the second wife. But apparently one researcher could find no proof that she was ever Andrew's wife. There isn't any particular proof she wasn't his wife either, and exactly who was the child of which mother seems to mostly come from the Andrew Graham will.
My information comes from several sources. First and foremost from a suitcase found in my mother's house which was "to be deposited into a suitable waste disposal site" by order of Judge Michael Gamble of the Lynchburg Circuit Court issued in 1994 at the request of my brother, Creighton Sloan.
That suitcase which I found and rescued contained the numerous old photos such as the photos of my grandmother Mary Graham when she was a little girl in 1882 and her mother in 1864. I scanned and posted those photos on my web site in 1995 and that was the seed that started this, when people started writing me letters about them.
http://www.samsloan.com/gg-mom.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/gg-mom-2.htmNext, my brother Creighton sent me some information he had assembled, which was strange because Creighton has been fighting with me and our mother for 30 years and has never before or since sent me a friendly letter.
I believe that what Creighton sent me was largely based on Philip Graham's book plus updates reflecting current family members and new children born.
Then, I often get bits and pieces of information from people who see my web site and add a relative or two.
My grandmother Mary Graham married Wesley Jacobson, who was Swedish. On the Swedish side, I get lots of letters because Wesley Jacobson's grandfather led the first Swedish settlement in Iowa and they are mentioned in history books, research papers, doctoral thesis and so on, so I am constantly getting new information or inquiries about that.
In about 1959 in the summer I went to a golden wedding anniversary for one of my Graham relatives in Northeastern Iowa. More than one hundred relatives were there. I wish I could remember who it was whose anniversary we were celebrating.
We had an old family tree in the 1950s. According to this tree, which I never personally saw, we were related to the sister of John Paul Jones, the Scot captain who became American and fought against the British in the American Revolutionary War. However, I have doubts about this. I have tried to backtrack this idea and have gotten nowhere. Still, other researchers have informed me that we are related to the Paul family in some way.
My uncle Newell Jacobson who lived in Florida later told me that he had that family tree. However, Newell died in 1989 and I do not know what happened to the old family tree. I believe it was made by a commercial company and not by a family member.
Every researcher agrees that I am the great-great-great-grandson of Andrew Graham. However, some say that I am descended from his first wife, some say that I am descended from his last wife and some say that I am descended from his middle wife, who others say did not exist.
I can just imagine when, 300 years from now, researchers try to figure out my five wives and eight children.
Sam Sloan
Here is one of the problems.
This letter says:
Graham-Mills Line
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
However, mine says that Andrew Graham was born in 1753 and married Margaret Coultor and that he died in 1821.
That is only the beginning. There are many other differences, so I feel that these are not the same people but two different people.
What do you think?
Sam Sloan
Dear Philip and Millie,
I am having a real problem here. The data you are sending me says:
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
You have a will of Andrew Graham dated 1821 which lists numerous children including Andrew who was born in 1808.
This means that Andrew Graham lived to be 101 years old and fathered a child when he was 88 years old!
The other possibility is that there are two Andrew Grahams.
I personally hope that I will be able to father children when I am 88 years old, but not many men can do that nor are many men married as many times or have as many children as Andrew Graham seems to have had.
Are you sure that this is just one man, and not two? Am I missing something?
Sam Sloan
Sam - The main reason is that both deal with the family line of Jennet Graham Mills, wife of Adam Mills, who was the daughter of Andrew Graham. We have to find something in the records to either support these two items or refute them. Phil
Fought in the American Revolutionary War in Capt. Alexander Turner's Company in the Upper Battalion of Samuel Richardson's Regiment under the command of Major Joseph Brown. See militia's roster as of 21 December 1778 in the Andrew Richardson papers in the library of the University of South Carolina. He is listed as Andrew Grimbs.
Taken prisoner and condemned to death. Saved by Battle of Yorktown and end of war
Immigration: Bef. 1776, from Scotland. Military service: ABT 1776, Served in Revolutionary War in militia
Occupation: Militiaman. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/l/a/Millie-A-Clarke-/index.htmls: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-1989" pages 64-74
Name also written Grumbs, Grimbs, and Grimes
Probably born in County Antrim, Ireland. Died between 11 March (date of will) and May 1821 (date of probate).
Came with parents to SC in 1772. Received land in SC on 17 March 1775.
There is a big problem with Andrew Graham because some say that he had two wives and was born in 1753 and others say he had three wives and was born in 1720 and died at the age of 101. Until this problem is solved, it will not be possible to be certain of the family trees of his ancestors and descendants.
Here is a note about this:
I finished xeroxing pages from the Graham genealogy book. I still need to make a print out of the supplemental material - which I plan to finish today - so that I can get the material out in the mail to you.
Attached is a text file on the family line of John McKee (died in Chester County SC, fall of 1794). This John McKee may possibly have been related to your Janet McKee Mills. As you can see from the text, Adams Mills named as one of the excutors to the will of John McKee. Some of the children of John & Nancy McKee moved with the Grahams to the area of Todd County KY. Martha B. McKee married Robert C. Graham, son of Andrew Graham. William McKee was named as one of the excutors to the will of Adams Mills, along with Matthew Graham & Robert C. Graham. John McKee was appointed guardian to two of Andrew Graham's children - Nancy Graham & Thomas P. Graham. Nancy Wilson, wife of John McKee, was the sister of Janette Wilson, wife of Matthew Graham (son of Andrew Graham) - children of John Wilson & Martha. I have more information on this Wilson family if your interested. As you can see there was a close association between this line of John McKee (died 1794) with the Grahams & Mills family.
Your information on Mary Chestnut as a wife of Andrew Graham has been a real puzzle to me. I do not have any proof (birth records or will records) as to which children of Andrew Graham were by which wife. I feel that the birth dates of the children of Andrew Graham (by which ever wife) are more accurate than those listed in your account. Those dates with day-month-year are from cemetery records; those with approximate dates are from census records - which are iffy.
Here is an outline of what I found on the wives of Andrew Graham. There is more detailed information in the pages which I will be sending you.
1. Margaret Coulter. The first record of Margaret Coulter is on 6 February 1773 she received land grant of 100 acres (amount granted a single adult) in what was then Craven County later Chester County SC. Margaret's siblings (Mary Ann, Archibald & Robert S) also received land grants in Chester County SC at this time. On 3 July 1791, Andrew Graham & his wife Margaret sold to Hugh McMillan the 100 acres warranted to Margaret Coulter in 1773 (Chester County SC Deed Bk E, page 263). The only other deed records in Chester County SC which lists Andrew Graham with a wife was made on 5 January 1790 where Andrew & Margaret Graham sold to Lard Burns the 100 acres granted to Andrew "Grimbs" on 17 March 1775. This deed is the prime proof connecting the spelling of Grimbs to the Grahams.
The death date for Margaret Coulter Graham is unknown. On April 1790 Andrew Graham was among the men appointed overseer for the construction of a road in Chester County SC. He was relieved of this duty and another man was appointed in his stead in September 1792. Mrs Kell felt that Margaret Coulter Graham may have been ill or died about this time & may have accounted for Andrew's release at this time. Robert C. Graham was born 11 July 1792 (from his tombstone in Spring Grove Cemetery, Warren County IL). Margaret Coulter Graham's father was Robert Coulter. So we assumed that Robert C. Graham was the son of Margaret Coulter Graham & that she may have died sometime after the birth.
2. Mary Chestnut. We could not find any records in Chester County SC with "Mary" as a wife of Andrew Graham. Not all the land deeds for Andrew Graham listed a wife - so there is a gap. The Grahams were associated with the family of David Chestnut of Chester County SC. I have information on the Chestnuts but I can not put my hands on it at the moment. There is a webpage on the Chestnut - again I am not sure of exact address but will send it later. Over the years I have looked into the Chestnut family of Chester County SC & I have been unable to link Andrew Graham to any of them. Oddly, I have been unable to find a "Mary" listed among the early Chestnut family, although it is a common name. Alexander Chestnut, son of David, moved to the area of Todd County KY along with the Grahams, McKees & Coulters. I can not prove or disprove Mary Chesnut as a wife of Andrew Graham. Mrs Kell felt very strongly about documentation. She felt that since there is no document to support Mary Chestnut as a wife of Andrew Graham that it should be discounted.
3. Margaret surname unknown. At the time of Andrew Graham's will (1821 Todd County KY) his wife as Margaret. There are deed records in Todd County KY that record the widow Margaret Graham until 1829. She apparently moved to Morgan County IL with her son (assuming it was her son) William Mills Graham. There is a deed record for Margaret Graham in Morgan County IL in 1835. It was at this time that William Mills Graham, along with Margaret Graham & his sister Nancy Graham Popham, moved from Morgan County IL to Henderson County IL. They joined the South Henderson Presbyterian Church in 1836. An elderly woman was listed in the 1840 census of Henderson County IL in the household of Ezekiel Popham (husband of Nancy Graham). The census records from 1800 to 1840 indicate that Margaret Graham was born between 1770 & 1774. This range in birth date would indicate that this Margaret is not the same woman as Margaret Coulter - who recieved a land grant as an adult in 1773.
Mrs Kell was very much a believer in the naming pattern of children. The eldest son was named after the husband's father, the second son was named after the wife's father. The eldest daughter was named after the husband's mother, the second daughter was named after the wife's mother. The early Grahams seemed to have followed this pattern. Based on the assumptions that Margaret Coulter Graham died in 1792 or shortly after; Andrew Graham married again to another Margaret by whom he had Martha Graham & William Mills Graham; therefore the surname of Margaret may have been "Mills" and her parents were William Mills & Martha. No proofs but assumptions.
Another observation. The middle name "Mills" was used for a son of William Mills Graham (John Mills Graham 1842-1926), and also in the son of John Mills Graham (Oley Mills Graham 1876-1946). The name "Chestnut" was not used among any of the children or grandchildren of Andrew Graham (died 1821 Todd County KY).
Thomas P. Graham (1803-1889), son of Andrew Graham (d. 1821 Todd County KY) - I have not found anything that indicates his middle name as "Phillips". The records in Todd County KY show that "P" was his middle initial. I have not been able to find a Phillips family associated with the Grahams in either SC or KY.
That is a summary of my thoughts on the wives of Andrew Graham. I hope to get down to the DAR Library to look at the DAR application of Janet Allen Schmidt, 26 January 1929. Do you want a copy of the DAR application of Mary Bruington & a copy of the Harding letter? The Harding letter (dated 30 June 1970) contains the same information as your graham.doc file.
Phil Graham
I have found a brief biography of James I of Scotland (1397-1437)
However, he lived too long ago to be the great-grandfather of Levi, I believe.
It is intriguing to think that this Mary Stuart might be part of the famous Stuart royal family of England
Sam Sloan
At 12:33 PM 3/1/2001 EST, Tonynell@aol.com wrote:
Good morning Sam! I will give you what information I have. I hope it helps.
Some of it was given to me by a lady who is a decadent of Robert Stuart Coulter a brother of Mary Ann's.
She has it that Levi was either a grandson or great grandson of James the 1st of Scotland. James was married twice his second wife a commoner and that is where Levi comes in.
Robert Coulter was born in Scotland about 1723. He left Scotland 1746-47 after the battle of Culloden. He fought on the side of Bonnie Prince Charles.
Seems a price was put his head so he left Scotland.
Robert married Mary Stuart before 1753. Mary was born 1729 in Ireland. Both died in Chester South Carolina. Robert 1783. I don't seem to have a date for
Mary. Their children are as follows:
Archibald b-1753
Margaret b- about 1755
Mary Ann b-about 1752
Elizabeth b-about 1758
Robert Stuart b-1760
All were born in Tyrone Co. Ireland.
Mary Ann married John Stevenson in South Carolina. They later went to Kentucky. Mary died there about 1824 on cancer of the face. John returned to SC he lived to be 101 years old and is buried in Murray Co., GA. He served in the Revolutionary War. He was a blacksmith. did this during the war, As I understand it never saw any combat. He came to the states in 1772 with his mother. The story goes that his father and siblings came earlier planning to meet but they never found each other again. He came here via Charleston
S.C.John and Mary Ann had seven children.
Robert b-about 1778 d 1831. This is my gr gr grandfather.
Mary b-about 1780.
Andrew b- August 30th 1783 d-July 16th1857. Andrew was married four times.
William b-about 1785
John b-Dec 24th 1785 d-Sept 11th 1835
Elizabeth b-about 1788 d-before 1854.
Margaret b-about 1792 d-before 1835.
All seem to be born in Mecklenburg N.C.
Think that is all you would like to know. Some you most likely know. the lady I spoke of thinks Robert Coulter's father name was Archibald being his oldest son was named that. There is a submission that says Norman, So I have no idea. Hope this is of interest to you. NellieFrom notes on Andrew Graham:
Andrew Graham was in the Revolutionary War; was taken prisoner and condemned to death, but the battle of Yorktown and the close of the war saved his life.
Margaret Coalton Graham's deeds of patriotism, bravery, and self denial were household words in South Carolina.
___________________________________
From David Graham of Chester County, South Carolina and His Descendants 1772 - 1989 by Katharine Tolle Kell and Philip James Graham; Birmingham, MI 1990, p 65"Andrew, listed in the South Carolina Council Journal as Andrew 'Grumbs', came to America with his parents and siblings on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer, which left Belfast on 16 October 1772 and arrived at Charleston, South Carolina, on 19 December 1772. He was part of the Rev. William Martin's grou of five shiploads of settlers. On 6 January 1773 he went with the others before the South Carolina General Assembly to request land and on 17 March 1775, as Andrew 'Grimbs', received the single-person's grant of 100 acres. The land was in Craven (laterChester) County on Rocky Creek and was bounded by the lands of James Knox, Francis Henderson,
Benjamin Mitchell, and Laird Burns (Royal Grant, Vol. 35, p. 307; and Collonial Plats, Vol. 16, P. 243."
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From Philip Graham:"It is now known that Andrew and his family moved from South Carolina to
Kentucky in 1805-1806, because 1806 was the earliest year in which his name
appeared on the Kentucky Tax Rolls. He was listed in 1806 Logan County Tax
Rolls with an estate of 200 acres of "second rate land" on the Elk Fork,
and owned one slave and three horses or mules. Matthew Graham, Andrew's
son, and Adam Mills, Andrew's son-in-law (husband of Jennet Graham) also
first appeared on the Logan-Christian County Tax rolls in 1806. Another
whose name first appeared on the Christian County Tax Rolls in 1806 was
John McKee, probably the father of Martha B. McKee who later married
Andrew's son Robert C. Graham. Probably serveral families, including the
Grahams, Mills, Wilsons, and McKees, migrated as a group from South
Carolina to Kentucky in the winter of 1805-6."Andrew continued to be listed in Logan County Tax Rolls until 1817. In
the 1807 Tax Rolls, Andrew's property was described as 238 acres of "third
rate land", one slave and two horses or mules. In 1810 he owned 238 acres
of "third rate land" a slave and five horses. In 1815 he paid taxes on 109
acres patented to B. Allen plus 138 acres of "third rate land", a slave and
four horses. In 1815 his land was valued at $5 an acre, and the total
value of his property including his slave and his horses was
$1,740. .... In 1817 he owned 238 acres of land plus one slave and five
horses or jacks, with a total value of $1897."No tax list is extant for Logan County in 1818. In 1819 Andrew was listed
in Christian County (then next to Logan County)> He owned 240 acres of
"second rate" land, one slave, five horses,etc. totalling $2,955. Later in
1819, the area in Christian County where Andrew and his family lived became
part of the newly established Todd County. The 1820 tax record for Todd
County was the last Kentucky listing for Andrew Graham; he still owned 240
acres of "second rate" land, one slave, five horses, etc. totaling $2,825."Andrew died between March and May of 1821, but not until 1824 when his
estate was settled did his widow, Margaret, appear on the Todd County tax
rolls. At that time no land was listed in her name, but she did own one
slave, one horse, etc., at a total value of $775."William McKee, brother-in-law of Robert C. Graham, appeared as executor to
the estate of Andrew Graham in the Todd County Tax Rolls between
1821-23. In 1821 Andrew Graham's estate consisted of 346 acres, one slave,
four horses, etc.; and in 1822 the estate consisted of the same amount of
land plus three horses, etc., but no slaves. By 1823 the estate amounted
to 220 acres on Rain Lick Creek, no slave, one horse, etc. totaling
$1,360. In 1824 William was no longer listed as Andrew's executor,
presumably because the esate had been settled."It is interesting that William did ot list Andrew's slave, Sandy, in 1822
and 1823. Andrew bequeathed Sandy to his widow and daughters, but they did
not emancipate Sandy until 1829. In the 1837 and 1838 Todd County Tax
rolls, Sandy Graham was listed as a free black."... accounts... from the probate records of the estate of Andrew Graham
(Todd County Court House Will Book A p. 169-175). Andrew Graham apparently
continued to work in the blacksmith trade up until his latter years as two
of theses accounts were due the estate for blacksmith work."March 1822, Robert E Acock received $10 from Robert C. Graham,
administrator of the estate of Andrew Graham, for the schooling of Thomas
Graham, Son of Andrew Graham decd." ............In the appraisal bill of the estate of Andrew Graham dated 23 May 1821 and
presented to the June Term 1821 Todd County Court (Todd County Will Book A
P. 23-24):
(summarized and excerpted here)
7 cows, 6 calves, 3 heifers, 16 head of hogs, 2 sows,and 10 pigs totaling
$126.50.
3 horses totaling $225. Waggon gear $130.
1 black man Sandy valued at $700.
Several plows, hoes, axes, bridles, saddle, saddle bag, side
saddle, branding iron, etc.
2 flat irons, grind stone, sickle, coffee mill, churn and basket, milk
crocks, water pails.
Furniture: 2 chests, 4 beds: 1 bedstead, 2 bed do & do, 1 bed do.
Kitchen: press, kettle and pot hooks, tea kettle, small pot and skillet, 2
ovens and lids, hand irons.
Cupboard furniture: Dining table and linnen, bureau, brass candlestick,
small trunk, looking glass, cotton wheel, 5 chairs.
Total value of itemized list: $1574.
J. Brown, J.D Goren?, John McKee appraisers and Wm. McKee, Matthew Grahm,
Robert C. Graham, executors.Sam,
I am a descendent of Jennet Graham Mills, daughter of Andrew Graham. I am
her fourth-great granddaughter. The name Janet stuck around our family --
it was my dad's sister's name and is my middle name.Attached are the OCR scans of the two transcribed wills as they appear in
Philip Graham's book. Since the form of the wills I have from the book
were transcribed, not scanned, copies of the original handwritten
documents, there was no point in sending you all those bits of the pure
scan, and this text is much friendlier. If you put it anywhere please
retain the credit to the authors of the book who did all the research.Where did you get all your other information? Through Philip Graham? It
seems to conform to the genealogy of the book. You can't tell from the
will that William's middle name is Mills -- just says William M. Graham --
and since my Jennet Graham married Adam Mills (son of William Mills) it
would seem there might be cause for some confusion (or she married a
step-cousin or something...)Anyway -- my records which came through another source and may be suspect
give Andrew's three wives as Margaret Coulter (probably misspelled...),
Mary Chestnut, and Margaret Phillips. Andrew's will does not provide the
maiden name of the second wife, and the only Mills mentioned in the will is
Jennet Mills, my great x4 grandmother.Also, it is clear from these documents there was some tie of the Graham and
Chestnut families -- since James Chestnut witnessed David Graham's will,
and the slave Sandy when freed lived in the household with an Isaac
Chestnut. Not nearly enough to prove a marriage of course....Regards,
MILLIESam & Millie-
Just a few thoughts-
1. I still have not been able to find my copy of the picture of William Mills & Jane (Popham) Graham. Cal & Velores Graham sent me a copy of the picture several years ago. I will write to them for another copy. Their address is: Calvin Graham, Box 256, Clinton Arkansas, 72031. Cal is a gr gr grandson of William Mills Graham through is son James Thomas Graham (1836-1921). Cal & Velores were the source of "Mills" as the middle name of William Mills Graham. They did not have any proof of "Mills" as the middle name, just family lore. Last year Velores sent me a copy of a land purchase from the Illinois Public Land Office dated 10 October 1840 for "William Mills Graham of Morgan County IL" for 160 acres in NE quarter of section 13, township 10 north, range 5 west. This would be land in Warren County IL. This land grand is the first "proof" for "Mills" as the middle name for William Mills Graham. Just as a side note - Cal & Velores told me that when they first started family research that they were told that William Mills Graham was born in Wheeling West Virginia.
2. I can not decide what to do concerning the # of wives for Andrew Graham (d. 1821) & which children were born by which wife. I am certain about the names of the children - as Andrew's probate record is the primary source. That 1791 Chester County SC deed for Andrew Graham & his first wife, Margaret Coulter, certainly proves that Margaret Coulter was the first wife & still alive in 1791. However the records do not provide anything to clear up Mary Chestnut as a possible wife of Andrew nor for "Phillips" as the surname of Margaret (Andrew's widow).
The name "Mills" does appear a number of times in several generations of Andrew's grandchildren & great grandchildren. The name "Ches(t)nut" is not appear at all as far as I can determine. Maybe something will turn up in the records to shed light on this problem.
3. There is connection a Paul family but I am not clear about this data or have good documentation. The Pauls listed below were connected somehow to John Paul Jones - but I do not know how. Margaret Coulter (wife of Andrew Graham, d. 1821) was the daughter of Robert Coulter & Mary Stuart. Mary Stuart was the daughter of a Levi Stuart. Here is an outline-
First Generation
1. Levi Stuart
Children:
1. Elizabeth Stuart
2. Mary Stuart
3. Margaret StuartSecond Generation
1. Elizabeth Stuart, married --- Paul. Child: (1) John Paul, born 1780 SC, died 1841 Washington County IL, married Mary Morton, daughter of Thomas Morton (1736-1790/1806) & Elizabeth Paul.2. Mary Stuart, married Robert Coulter
3. Margaret Stuart, married Alexander Morton.
Children:
1. Thomas Morton, born 1736 Ireland, died 1790/1806 Chester County SC, buried Paul's Cemetery, married Elizabeth Paul.
2. Jane Morton, born 1738, died 1817 Chester County SC, buried Paul's Cemetery, married John Kell.Phil
Sam-
I think we dealing with the same Andrew Graham. The main reason is that both deal with the family line of Jennet Graham Mills, wife of Adam Mills, who was the daughter of Andrew Graham.
I do think Millie Clarke's information is in error in regards to the (1) birth & death dates of Andrew; (2) maiden name of his first wife Margaret Coulter; (3) the order, names & birth dates of the children.
The two items that I can not prove in error is (1) marriage to Mary Chestnut and (3) Phillips as the surname of Andrew's widow, Margaret. We have to find something in the records to either support these two items or refute them.
Phil
Sam Sloan-
On your questions:
1. When Mrs Kell made the first printing of the book she spent around $3000
of her own money. She sold the book at cost at around $20 each. I do have
a copy of book in unbound form. What I have thought of doing is going to
Kinkos to see how much it would be to make xerox copies & then seeing how
many copies various people would want to purchase. Mrs Kell & I were
working on a supplement (which I still add on information). If I had the
time, energy & talent what I should do is make a complete revision and print
up a new book.2. I do not have a homepage on the internet, yet. Again, it is something I
have thought about but have not gotten around to doing anything about.3. It would be great to finalize the number of wives of Andrew Graham & his
children's mother. According to Millie Clarke's information, William M.
Graham is the son of Andrew through the middle wife, Mary Ches(t)nut.Phil Graham
Back to the original question:
I would like to try to add a few leaves to My Family Tree.
First I need to explain that the box of photographs handed down from Henrietta Jacobson (1884-1969) just gave his name as William Graham 1799-1881. The middle name of Mills was not mentioned. I got the middle name of Mills and the dates of 1801-1882 from another source.
Since Henrietta was born just after he died, she might have known something about him and her dates might be correct.
Henrietta was not related to him, but her sister-in-law, Mary Graham, my grandmother, was his granddaughter.
By the way, I just assume that Henrietta assembled these documents. I found them in my mother's house in a pile of stuff that was about to be taken to a garbage dump pursuant to a court order by Judge Michael Gamble issued at the request of my brother, Creighton Sloan. I had to file for bankruptcy in order to stop the destruction of these and other family documents. It is possible that my mother got these documents and the photographs from her own mother, Mary Graham, and not from her Aunt Henrietta.
There are a few people still alive who would know, especially my Uncle Alden Jacobson who lives in Melbourne, Florida, 1-321-779-2204, but due to a family rift I cannot ask him. (Did I forget to tell you that Alden dropped the Bomb on Nagasaki?)
Please note that there are two persons named William Mills Graham. The other one was the son of Matthew Graham who was the son of Andrew Graham and Margaret Coulter. This seems very strange and surprising and frankly looks likely to be wrong.
So, I want to ask you: Of what are you completely certain? How many wives are you certain that Andrew Graham had and how many and which children are you certain that he had?
Sam Sloan
Margaret COULTER [Parents] was born in 1755 in Tyrone County, Ireland. She died in 1792/1796 in Chester Co., South Carolina. She married Andrew GRIMBS Graham about 1775 in Chester Co., South Carolina.
s: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-1989" pages 64-74
Margaret Coulter born Ca 1755 probably in County Tyrone, Ireland died Ca 1792/96 probably in Chester County, SC married about 1774 (based on age of oldest child) to Andrew Graham, probably in Chester Co.,SC. He was born CA 1753 probably in County Antrim, Ire., and died in 1821 in Todd Co., KY. based on information supplied by Mrs. Katherine Kell, 1810 Oak Street, Birmingham, MI 48009, and supported by Anna Belle Coulter, Olathe, Ks. who provided The Historical Sketch of the Coulter Family and stated concerning Robert and Mary Stuart Coulter
They had the following children:
F i Elizabeth GRAHAM was born in 1775/1777. She died in 1830. F ii Jennet GRAHAM was born in 1777/1779. She died about 1817. M iii Matthew GRAHAM was born on 17 Jan 1780. He died on 8 May 1854. F iv Mary GRAHAM was born about 1784. She died in 1830/1835. M v David GRAHAM was born about 1787. He died in 1830/1840. M vi Robert C. GRAHAM was born on 11 Jul 1792. He died on 25 May 1863.
Andrew GRIMBS Graham [Parents] 1, 2 was born about 1753 in County Antrim, Ireland. He died on 11 Mar 1821 in Todd County, Kentucky. He married Mary CHESNUT.
Other marriages:, Margaret
COULTER, Margaret
PHILLIPS, Margaret
Andrew Grimbs arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772. In January, 1773 he was granted 100 acres of land in Chester County, South Carolina. The land grant gives his name as Andrew Grimbs, See Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772: (Rev. William Martin and His Five Shiploads of Settlers) by Jean Stephenson, page 74.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/PaFarmer.htm
Later, the family started using the name Graham rather than Grimbs. This has caused controversy among genealogists.
There are doubts and questions about Andrew Graham. Everything about him is doubtful, including his date of birth, the names and number of the wives he had, and which children were by which wife,
There was a criminal case brought in Belfast Ireland in 1772 against a man named Andrew Graham. The index to the Belfast News-Letter shows an Andrew Graham in a list of persons named in relation to a rising or riot at Kilconway, county Antrim reported on page 2 of the edition of 17 March 1772. There are several other mentions of Graham, Andrew in the index, but this was the only one for 1772.
See: http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/
Index to Belfast Newsletter 1737-1800The IGI lists a person named Andrew Grahams who was born 18 SEP 1755 Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland. His mother was Jane and his father was James Grahams. In spite of the differences, this could be the same person.
My great-great-great-grandfather was Andrew Graham who was born in Ireland in "About 1753". His mother was Janet and his father was David Graham. Andrew Grahams was born 18 SEP 1755 and his mother was Jane and his father was James Grahams. In spite of the two years difference in dates, the difference between Janet and Jane and the difference between David Graham and James Grahams, there is enough similarity that further checking is appropriate.
One possibility concerns the fact that my Andrew was the eldest of eight children. When a man died it was customary for his brother to marry the widow. So, it is possible that James died and David the next brother married Jane or Janet. The fact that Andrew had a different father from the others was just never mentioned.
A Graham family history is at http://proni.nics.gov.uk/records/private/graham.htm
The DAR Patriot Index Centennial Edition Part III, (Washington: NSDAR, 1994), page 1203, says:
Andrew: b c 1734 IR d a 5-9-1821 KY m (1)Margaret Coalton (2) Mary Chestnut (3) Margaret ___ Sol PS SC
Andrew Graham arrived in America just in time to serve in the American Revolutionary War.
I have been compiling my family tree. I am taking information mostly compiled by people who are now deceased and putting it into my computer. According to one website, my great-great-great-great-grandmother was named Mary Stuart, who was born in Ireland 1729. http://www.anusha.com/pafg31.htm#906 .
The story that one of the wives of Andrew Graham was descended from the Kings of Scotland has been around since at least 1800. However, I doubt that the story is true. One entry I have come across says that she was the great-great granddaughter of King James I of Scotland, by his second wife, a commoner. However, the Kings of Scotland did not have "second wives" who were commoners. Instead, they had mistresses and bastard children, in great number. The different King James of Scotland often had many mistresses, especially King James IV and King James V.
I have found a brief biography of James I of Scotland (1397-1437). However, he lived too long ago to be the great-great-grandfather of Mary Stuart.They might mean James I of England, who was also James VI of Scotland. It is nevertheless intriguing to think that this Mary Stuart might be part of the famous Stuart Royal Family of England. The name certainly sounds like the name of a member of the British Royal Family.
Mary Stuart was married to Robert Coulter. Robert Coulter was born in Scotland about 1723. He left Scotland 1746-47 after the battle of Culloden. He fought on the side of Bonnie Prince Charles. Seems a price was put his head so he left Scotland.
A website family tree which deals with the descendants of Mary Stuart (but not with her ancestors) is at
http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/tallen/ROBERT/A big problem I have been having with my family tree concerns Andrew Graham, husband of Margaret Coulter, who was the daughter of Mary Stuart. Andrew Graham died in 1821. One group says he was born in 1753 and was married twice. The other group says he was born in 1720, lived to be 101 years old, was married three times and had 11 children and that I am a descendant of the wife in the middle which according to the first group did not exist.
Both sides have documents proving their cases. I tend to favor the side that says he was born in 1753. However, this problem has made it difficult for me to extend my family tree. The other side, which says that Andrew Graham was born in 1720 and died in 1821 at the age of 101, has a website at
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/l/a/Millie-A-Clarke-/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0458.html
I believe that website contains several mistakes. It also makes Andrew Graham older than his father, David Graham.Andrew Graham fought in the American Revolutionary War. Andrew Graham was in the Revolutionary War; was taken prisoner and condemned to death, but the battle of Yorktown and the close of the war saved his life.
This is one of the factors which has led me to believe that he was born in 1753, because that would make him 23 when the war started, a suitable age to be fighting. There is no doubt that he fought in that war, because several applications to join the "Daughters of the American Revolution" have been filed by his descendants.
My great-great-great-great grandfather David Graham came from Ireland with his wife and children on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer which left Belfast 16 October 1772 and arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772.
He arrived just in time to send two of his sons, one of which was my great-great-great grandfather, Andrew Graham, to fight in the American Revolutionary War.
There is one school of thought that Andrew had 3 wives, including Mary Chestnut as the second wife. But apparently one researcher could find no proof that she was ever Andrew's wife. There isn't any particular proof she wasn't his wife either, and exactly who was the child of which mother seems to mostly come from the Andrew Graham will.
My information comes from several sources. First and foremost from a suitcase found in my mother's house which was "to be deposited into a suitable waste disposal site" by order of Judge Michael Gamble of the Lynchburg Circuit Court issued in 1994 at the request of my brother, Creighton Sloan.
That suitcase which I found and rescued contained the numerous old photos such as the photos of my grandmother Mary Graham when she was a little girl in 1882 and her mother in 1864. I scanned and posted those photos on my web site in 1995 and that was the seed that started this, when people started writing me letters about them.
http://www.samsloan.com/gg-mom.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/gg-mom-2.htmNext, my brother Creighton sent me some information he had assembled, which was strange because Creighton has been fighting with me and our mother for 30 years and has never before or since sent me a friendly letter.
I believe that what Creighton sent me was largely based on Philip Graham's book plus updates reflecting current family members and new children born.
Then, I often get bits and pieces of information from people who see my web site and add a relative or two.
My grandmother Mary Graham married Wesley Jacobson, who was Swedish. On the Swedish side, I get lots of letters because Wesley Jacobson's grandfather led the first Swedish settlement in Iowa and they are mentioned in history books, research papers, doctoral thesis and so on, so I am constantly getting new information or inquiries about that.
In about 1959 in the summer I went to a golden wedding anniversary for one of my Graham relatives in Northeastern Iowa. More than one hundred relatives were there. I wish I could remember who it was whose anniversary we were celebrating.
We had an old family tree in the 1950s. According to this tree, which I never personally saw, we were related to the sister of John Paul Jones, the Scot captain who became American and fought against the British in the American Revolutionary War. However, I have doubts about this. I have tried to backtrack this idea and have gotten nowhere. Still, other researchers have informed me that we are related to the Paul family in some way.
My uncle Newell Jacobson who lived in Florida later told me that he had that family tree. However, Newell died in 1989 and I do not know what happened to the old family tree. I believe it was made by a commercial company and not by a family member.
Every researcher agrees that I am the great-great-great-grandson of Andrew Graham. However, some say that I am descended from his first wife, some say that I am descended from his last wife and some say that I am descended from his middle wife, who others say did not exist.
I can just imagine when, 300 years from now, researchers try to figure out my five wives and eight children.
Sam Sloan
Here is one of the problems.
This letter says:
Graham-Mills Line
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
However, mine says that Andrew Graham was born in 1753 and married Margaret Coultor and that he died in 1821.
That is only the beginning. There are many other differences, so I feel that these are not the same people but two different people.
What do you think?
Sam Sloan
Dear Philip and Millie,
I am having a real problem here. The data you are sending me says:
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
You have a will of Andrew Graham dated 1821 which lists numerous children including Andrew who was born in 1808.
This means that Andrew Graham lived to be 101 years old and fathered a child when he was 88 years old!
The other possibility is that there are two Andrew Grahams.
I personally hope that I will be able to father children when I am 88 years old, but not many men can do that nor are many men married as many times or have as many children as Andrew Graham seems to have had.
Are you sure that this is just one man, and not two? Am I missing something?
Sam Sloan
Sam - The main reason is that both deal with the family line of Jennet Graham Mills, wife of Adam Mills, who was the daughter of Andrew Graham. We have to find something in the records to either support these two items or refute them. Phil
Fought in the American Revolutionary War in Capt. Alexander Turner's Company in the Upper Battalion of Samuel Richardson's Regiment under the command of Major Joseph Brown. See militia's roster as of 21 December 1778 in the Andrew Richardson papers in the library of the University of South Carolina. He is listed as Andrew Grimbs.
Taken prisoner and condemned to death. Saved by Battle of Yorktown and end of war
Immigration: Bef. 1776, from Scotland. Military service: ABT 1776, Served in Revolutionary War in militia
Occupation: Militiaman. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/l/a/Millie-A-Clarke-/index.htmls: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-1989" pages 64-74
Name also written Grumbs, Grimbs, and Grimes
Probably born in County Antrim, Ireland. Died between 11 March (date of will) and May 1821 (date of probate).
Came with parents to SC in 1772. Received land in SC on 17 March 1775.
There is a big problem with Andrew Graham because some say that he had two wives and was born in 1753 and others say he had three wives and was born in 1720 and died at the age of 101. Until this problem is solved, it will not be possible to be certain of the family trees of his ancestors and descendants.
Here is a note about this:
I finished xeroxing pages from the Graham genealogy book. I still need to make a print out of the supplemental material - which I plan to finish today - so that I can get the material out in the mail to you.
Attached is a text file on the family line of John McKee (died in Chester County SC, fall of 1794). This John McKee may possibly have been related to your Janet McKee Mills. As you can see from the text, Adams Mills named as one of the excutors to the will of John McKee. Some of the children of John & Nancy McKee moved with the Grahams to the area of Todd County KY. Martha B. McKee married Robert C. Graham, son of Andrew Graham. William McKee was named as one of the excutors to the will of Adams Mills, along with Matthew Graham & Robert C. Graham. John McKee was appointed guardian to two of Andrew Graham's children - Nancy Graham & Thomas P. Graham. Nancy Wilson, wife of John McKee, was the sister of Janette Wilson, wife of Matthew Graham (son of Andrew Graham) - children of John Wilson & Martha. I have more information on this Wilson family if your interested. As you can see there was a close association between this line of John McKee (died 1794) with the Grahams & Mills family.
Your information on Mary Chestnut as a wife of Andrew Graham has been a real puzzle to me. I do not have any proof (birth records or will records) as to which children of Andrew Graham were by which wife. I feel that the birth dates of the children of Andrew Graham (by which ever wife) are more accurate than those listed in your account. Those dates with day-month-year are from cemetery records; those with approximate dates are from census records - which are iffy.
Here is an outline of what I found on the wives of Andrew Graham. There is more detailed information in the pages which I will be sending you.
1. Margaret Coulter. The first record of Margaret Coulter is on 6 February 1773 she received land grant of 100 acres (amount granted a single adult) in what was then Craven County later Chester County SC. Margaret's siblings (Mary Ann, Archibald & Robert S) also received land grants in Chester County SC at this time. On 3 July 1791, Andrew Graham & his wife Margaret sold to Hugh McMillan the 100 acres warranted to Margaret Coulter in 1773 (Chester County SC Deed Bk E, page 263). The only other deed records in Chester County SC which lists Andrew Graham with a wife was made on 5 January 1790 where Andrew & Margaret Graham sold to Lard Burns the 100 acres granted to Andrew "Grimbs" on 17 March 1775. This deed is the prime proof connecting the spelling of Grimbs to the Grahams.
The death date for Margaret Coulter Graham is unknown. On April 1790 Andrew Graham was among the men appointed overseer for the construction of a road in Chester County SC. He was relieved of this duty and another man was appointed in his stead in September 1792. Mrs Kell felt that Margaret Coulter Graham may have been ill or died about this time & may have accounted for Andrew's release at this time. Robert C. Graham was born 11 July 1792 (from his tombstone in Spring Grove Cemetery, Warren County IL). Margaret Coulter Graham's father was Robert Coulter. So we assumed that Robert C. Graham was the son of Margaret Coulter Graham & that she may have died sometime after the birth.
2. Mary Chestnut. We could not find any records in Chester County SC with "Mary" as a wife of Andrew Graham. Not all the land deeds for Andrew Graham listed a wife - so there is a gap. The Grahams were associated with the family of David Chestnut of Chester County SC. I have information on the Chestnuts but I can not put my hands on it at the moment. There is a webpage on the Chestnut - again I am not sure of exact address but will send it later. Over the years I have looked into the Chestnut family of Chester County SC & I have been unable to link Andrew Graham to any of them. Oddly, I have been unable to find a "Mary" listed among the early Chestnut family, although it is a common name. Alexander Chestnut, son of David, moved to the area of Todd County KY along with the Grahams, McKees & Coulters. I can not prove or disprove Mary Chesnut as a wife of Andrew Graham. Mrs Kell felt very strongly about documentation. She felt that since there is no document to support Mary Chestnut as a wife of Andrew Graham that it should be discounted.
3. Margaret surname unknown. At the time of Andrew Graham's will (1821 Todd County KY) his wife as Margaret. There are deed records in Todd County KY that record the widow Margaret Graham until 1829. She apparently moved to Morgan County IL with her son (assuming it was her son) William Mills Graham. There is a deed record for Margaret Graham in Morgan County IL in 1835. It was at this time that William Mills Graham, along with Margaret Graham & his sister Nancy Graham Popham, moved from Morgan County IL to Henderson County IL. They joined the South Henderson Presbyterian Church in 1836. An elderly woman was listed in the 1840 census of Henderson County IL in the household of Ezekiel Popham (husband of Nancy Graham). The census records from 1800 to 1840 indicate that Margaret Graham was born between 1770 & 1774. This range in birth date would indicate that this Margaret is not the same woman as Margaret Coulter - who recieved a land grant as an adult in 1773.
Mrs Kell was very much a believer in the naming pattern of children. The eldest son was named after the husband's father, the second son was named after the wife's father. The eldest daughter was named after the husband's mother, the second daughter was named after the wife's mother. The early Grahams seemed to have followed this pattern. Based on the assumptions that Margaret Coulter Graham died in 1792 or shortly after; Andrew Graham married again to another Margaret by whom he had Martha Graham & William Mills Graham; therefore the surname of Margaret may have been "Mills" and her parents were William Mills & Martha. No proofs but assumptions.
Another observation. The middle name "Mills" was used for a son of William Mills Graham (John Mills Graham 1842-1926), and also in the son of John Mills Graham (Oley Mills Graham 1876-1946). The name "Chestnut" was not used among any of the children or grandchildren of Andrew Graham (died 1821 Todd County KY).
Thomas P. Graham (1803-1889), son of Andrew Graham (d. 1821 Todd County KY) - I have not found anything that indicates his middle name as "Phillips". The records in Todd County KY show that "P" was his middle initial. I have not been able to find a Phillips family associated with the Grahams in either SC or KY.
That is a summary of my thoughts on the wives of Andrew Graham. I hope to get down to the DAR Library to look at the DAR application of Janet Allen Schmidt, 26 January 1929. Do you want a copy of the DAR application of Mary Bruington & a copy of the Harding letter? The Harding letter (dated 30 June 1970) contains the same information as your graham.doc file.
Phil Graham
I have found a brief biography of James I of Scotland (1397-1437)
However, he lived too long ago to be the great-grandfather of Levi, I believe.
It is intriguing to think that this Mary Stuart might be part of the famous Stuart royal family of England
Sam Sloan
At 12:33 PM 3/1/2001 EST, Tonynell@aol.com wrote:
Good morning Sam! I will give you what information I have. I hope it helps.
Some of it was given to me by a lady who is a decadent of Robert Stuart Coulter a brother of Mary Ann's.
She has it that Levi was either a grandson or great grandson of James the 1st of Scotland. James was married twice his second wife a commoner and that is where Levi comes in.
Robert Coulter was born in Scotland about 1723. He left Scotland 1746-47 after the battle of Culloden. He fought on the side of Bonnie Prince Charles.
Seems a price was put his head so he left Scotland.
Robert married Mary Stuart before 1753. Mary was born 1729 in Ireland. Both died in Chester South Carolina. Robert 1783. I don't seem to have a date for
Mary. Their children are as follows:
Archibald b-1753
Margaret b- about 1755
Mary Ann b-about 1752
Elizabeth b-about 1758
Robert Stuart b-1760
All were born in Tyrone Co. Ireland.
Mary Ann married John Stevenson in South Carolina. They later went to Kentucky. Mary died there about 1824 on cancer of the face. John returned to SC he lived to be 101 years old and is buried in Murray Co., GA. He served in the Revolutionary War. He was a blacksmith. did this during the war, As I understand it never saw any combat. He came to the states in 1772 with his mother. The story goes that his father and siblings came earlier planning to meet but they never found each other again. He came here via Charleston
S.C.John and Mary Ann had seven children.
Robert b-about 1778 d 1831. This is my gr gr grandfather.
Mary b-about 1780.
Andrew b- August 30th 1783 d-July 16th1857. Andrew was married four times.
William b-about 1785
John b-Dec 24th 1785 d-Sept 11th 1835
Elizabeth b-about 1788 d-before 1854.
Margaret b-about 1792 d-before 1835.
All seem to be born in Mecklenburg N.C.
Think that is all you would like to know. Some you most likely know. the lady I spoke of thinks Robert Coulter's father name was Archibald being his oldest son was named that. There is a submission that says Norman, So I have no idea. Hope this is of interest to you. NellieFrom notes on Andrew Graham:
Andrew Graham was in the Revolutionary War; was taken prisoner and condemned to death, but the battle of Yorktown and the close of the war saved his life.
Margaret Coalton Graham's deeds of patriotism, bravery, and self denial were household words in South Carolina.
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From David Graham of Chester County, South Carolina and His Descendants 1772 - 1989 by Katharine Tolle Kell and Philip James Graham; Birmingham, MI 1990, p 65"Andrew, listed in the South Carolina Council Journal as Andrew 'Grumbs', came to America with his parents and siblings on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer, which left Belfast on 16 October 1772 and arrived at Charleston, South Carolina, on 19 December 1772. He was part of the Rev. William Martin's grou of five shiploads of settlers. On 6 January 1773 he went with the others before the South Carolina General Assembly to request land and on 17 March 1775, as Andrew 'Grimbs', received the single-person's grant of 100 acres. The land was in Craven (laterChester) County on Rocky Creek and was bounded by the lands of James Knox, Francis Henderson,
Benjamin Mitchell, and Laird Burns (Royal Grant, Vol. 35, p. 307; and Collonial Plats, Vol. 16, P. 243."
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From Philip Graham:"It is now known that Andrew and his family moved from South Carolina to
Kentucky in 1805-1806, because 1806 was the earliest year in which his name
appeared on the Kentucky Tax Rolls. He was listed in 1806 Logan County Tax
Rolls with an estate of 200 acres of "second rate land" on the Elk Fork,
and owned one slave and three horses or mules. Matthew Graham, Andrew's
son, and Adam Mills, Andrew's son-in-law (husband of Jennet Graham) also
first appeared on the Logan-Christian County Tax rolls in 1806. Another
whose name first appeared on the Christian County Tax Rolls in 1806 was
John McKee, probably the father of Martha B. McKee who later married
Andrew's son Robert C. Graham. Probably serveral families, including the
Grahams, Mills, Wilsons, and McKees, migrated as a group from South
Carolina to Kentucky in the winter of 1805-6."Andrew continued to be listed in Logan County Tax Rolls until 1817. In
the 1807 Tax Rolls, Andrew's property was described as 238 acres of "third
rate land", one slave and two horses or mules. In 1810 he owned 238 acres
of "third rate land" a slave and five horses. In 1815 he paid taxes on 109
acres patented to B. Allen plus 138 acres of "third rate land", a slave and
four horses. In 1815 his land was valued at $5 an acre, and the total
value of his property including his slave and his horses was
$1,740. .... In 1817 he owned 238 acres of land plus one slave and five
horses or jacks, with a total value of $1897."No tax list is extant for Logan County in 1818. In 1819 Andrew was listed
in Christian County (then next to Logan County)> He owned 240 acres of
"second rate" land, one slave, five horses,etc. totalling $2,955. Later in
1819, the area in Christian County where Andrew and his family lived became
part of the newly established Todd County. The 1820 tax record for Todd
County was the last Kentucky listing for Andrew Graham; he still owned 240
acres of "second rate" land, one slave, five horses, etc. totaling $2,825."Andrew died between March and May of 1821, but not until 1824 when his
estate was settled did his widow, Margaret, appear on the Todd County tax
rolls. At that time no land was listed in her name, but she did own one
slave, one horse, etc., at a total value of $775."William McKee, brother-in-law of Robert C. Graham, appeared as executor to
the estate of Andrew Graham in the Todd County Tax Rolls between
1821-23. In 1821 Andrew Graham's estate consisted of 346 acres, one slave,
four horses, etc.; and in 1822 the estate consisted of the same amount of
land plus three horses, etc., but no slaves. By 1823 the estate amounted
to 220 acres on Rain Lick Creek, no slave, one horse, etc. totaling
$1,360. In 1824 William was no longer listed as Andrew's executor,
presumably because the esate had been settled."It is interesting that William did ot list Andrew's slave, Sandy, in 1822
and 1823. Andrew bequeathed Sandy to his widow and daughters, but they did
not emancipate Sandy until 1829. In the 1837 and 1838 Todd County Tax
rolls, Sandy Graham was listed as a free black."... accounts... from the probate records of the estate of Andrew Graham
(Todd County Court House Will Book A p. 169-175). Andrew Graham apparently
continued to work in the blacksmith trade up until his latter years as two
of theses accounts were due the estate for blacksmith work."March 1822, Robert E Acock received $10 from Robert C. Graham,
administrator of the estate of Andrew Graham, for the schooling of Thomas
Graham, Son of Andrew Graham decd." ............In the appraisal bill of the estate of Andrew Graham dated 23 May 1821 and
presented to the June Term 1821 Todd County Court (Todd County Will Book A
P. 23-24):
(summarized and excerpted here)
7 cows, 6 calves, 3 heifers, 16 head of hogs, 2 sows,and 10 pigs totaling
$126.50.
3 horses totaling $225. Waggon gear $130.
1 black man Sandy valued at $700.
Several plows, hoes, axes, bridles, saddle, saddle bag, side
saddle, branding iron, etc.
2 flat irons, grind stone, sickle, coffee mill, churn and basket, milk
crocks, water pails.
Furniture: 2 chests, 4 beds: 1 bedstead, 2 bed do & do, 1 bed do.
Kitchen: press, kettle and pot hooks, tea kettle, small pot and skillet, 2
ovens and lids, hand irons.
Cupboard furniture: Dining table and linnen, bureau, brass candlestick,
small trunk, looking glass, cotton wheel, 5 chairs.
Total value of itemized list: $1574.
J. Brown, J.D Goren?, John McKee appraisers and Wm. McKee, Matthew Grahm,
Robert C. Graham, executors.Sam,
I am a descendent of Jennet Graham Mills, daughter of Andrew Graham. I am
her fourth-great granddaughter. The name Janet stuck around our family --
it was my dad's sister's name and is my middle name.Attached are the OCR scans of the two transcribed wills as they appear in
Philip Graham's book. Since the form of the wills I have from the book
were transcribed, not scanned, copies of the original handwritten
documents, there was no point in sending you all those bits of the pure
scan, and this text is much friendlier. If you put it anywhere please
retain the credit to the authors of the book who did all the research.Where did you get all your other information? Through Philip Graham? It
seems to conform to the genealogy of the book. You can't tell from the
will that William's middle name is Mills -- just says William M. Graham --
and since my Jennet Graham married Adam Mills (son of William Mills) it
would seem there might be cause for some confusion (or she married a
step-cousin or something...)Anyway -- my records which came through another source and may be suspect
give Andrew's three wives as Margaret Coulter (probably misspelled...),
Mary Chestnut, and Margaret Phillips. Andrew's will does not provide the
maiden name of the second wife, and the only Mills mentioned in the will is
Jennet Mills, my great x4 grandmother.Also, it is clear from these documents there was some tie of the Graham and
Chestnut families -- since James Chestnut witnessed David Graham's will,
and the slave Sandy when freed lived in the household with an Isaac
Chestnut. Not nearly enough to prove a marriage of course....Regards,
MILLIESam & Millie-
Just a few thoughts-
1. I still have not been able to find my copy of the picture of William Mills & Jane (Popham) Graham. Cal & Velores Graham sent me a copy of the picture several years ago. I will write to them for another copy. Their address is: Calvin Graham, Box 256, Clinton Arkansas, 72031. Cal is a gr gr grandson of William Mills Graham through is son James Thomas Graham (1836-1921). Cal & Velores were the source of "Mills" as the middle name of William Mills Graham. They did not have any proof of "Mills" as the middle name, just family lore. Last year Velores sent me a copy of a land purchase from the Illinois Public Land Office dated 10 October 1840 for "William Mills Graham of Morgan County IL" for 160 acres in NE quarter of section 13, township 10 north, range 5 west. This would be land in Warren County IL. This land grand is the first "proof" for "Mills" as the middle name for William Mills Graham. Just as a side note - Cal & Velores told me that when they first started family research that they were told that William Mills Graham was born in Wheeling West Virginia.
2. I can not decide what to do concerning the # of wives for Andrew Graham (d. 1821) & which children were born by which wife. I am certain about the names of the children - as Andrew's probate record is the primary source. That 1791 Chester County SC deed for Andrew Graham & his first wife, Margaret Coulter, certainly proves that Margaret Coulter was the first wife & still alive in 1791. However the records do not provide anything to clear up Mary Chestnut as a possible wife of Andrew nor for "Phillips" as the surname of Margaret (Andrew's widow).
The name "Mills" does appear a number of times in several generations of Andrew's grandchildren & great grandchildren. The name "Ches(t)nut" is not appear at all as far as I can determine. Maybe something will turn up in the records to shed light on this problem.
3. There is connection a Paul family but I am not clear about this data or have good documentation. The Pauls listed below were connected somehow to John Paul Jones - but I do not know how. Margaret Coulter (wife of Andrew Graham, d. 1821) was the daughter of Robert Coulter & Mary Stuart. Mary Stuart was the daughter of a Levi Stuart. Here is an outline-
First Generation
1. Levi Stuart
Children:
1. Elizabeth Stuart
2. Mary Stuart
3. Margaret StuartSecond Generation
1. Elizabeth Stuart, married --- Paul. Child: (1) John Paul, born 1780 SC, died 1841 Washington County IL, married Mary Morton, daughter of Thomas Morton (1736-1790/1806) & Elizabeth Paul.2. Mary Stuart, married Robert Coulter
3. Margaret Stuart, married Alexander Morton.
Children:
1. Thomas Morton, born 1736 Ireland, died 1790/1806 Chester County SC, buried Paul's Cemetery, married Elizabeth Paul.
2. Jane Morton, born 1738, died 1817 Chester County SC, buried Paul's Cemetery, married John Kell.Phil
Sam-
I think we dealing with the same Andrew Graham. The main reason is that both deal with the family line of Jennet Graham Mills, wife of Adam Mills, who was the daughter of Andrew Graham.
I do think Millie Clarke's information is in error in regards to the (1) birth & death dates of Andrew; (2) maiden name of his first wife Margaret Coulter; (3) the order, names & birth dates of the children.
The two items that I can not prove in error is (1) marriage to Mary Chestnut and (3) Phillips as the surname of Andrew's widow, Margaret. We have to find something in the records to either support these two items or refute them.
Phil
Sam Sloan-
On your questions:
1. When Mrs Kell made the first printing of the book she spent around $3000
of her own money. She sold the book at cost at around $20 each. I do have
a copy of book in unbound form. What I have thought of doing is going to
Kinkos to see how much it would be to make xerox copies & then seeing how
many copies various people would want to purchase. Mrs Kell & I were
working on a supplement (which I still add on information). If I had the
time, energy & talent what I should do is make a complete revision and print
up a new book.2. I do not have a homepage on the internet, yet. Again, it is something I
have thought about but have not gotten around to doing anything about.3. It would be great to finalize the number of wives of Andrew Graham & his
children's mother. According to Millie Clarke's information, William M.
Graham is the son of Andrew through the middle wife, Mary Ches(t)nut.Phil Graham
Back to the original question:
I would like to try to add a few leaves to My Family Tree.
First I need to explain that the box of photographs handed down from Henrietta Jacobson (1884-1969) just gave his name as William Graham 1799-1881. The middle name of Mills was not mentioned. I got the middle name of Mills and the dates of 1801-1882 from another source.
Since Henrietta was born just after he died, she might have known something about him and her dates might be correct.
Henrietta was not related to him, but her sister-in-law, Mary Graham, my grandmother, was his granddaughter.
By the way, I just assume that Henrietta assembled these documents. I found them in my mother's house in a pile of stuff that was about to be taken to a garbage dump pursuant to a court order by Judge Michael Gamble issued at the request of my brother, Creighton Sloan. I had to file for bankruptcy in order to stop the destruction of these and other family documents. It is possible that my mother got these documents and the photographs from her own mother, Mary Graham, and not from her Aunt Henrietta.
There are a few people still alive who would know, especially my Uncle Alden Jacobson who lives in Melbourne, Florida, 1-321-779-2204, but due to a family rift I cannot ask him. (Did I forget to tell you that Alden dropped the Bomb on Nagasaki?)
Please note that there are two persons named William Mills Graham. The other one was the son of Matthew Graham who was the son of Andrew Graham and Margaret Coulter. This seems very strange and surprising and frankly looks likely to be wrong.
So, I want to ask you: Of what are you completely certain? How many wives are you certain that Andrew Graham had and how many and which children are you certain that he had?
Sam Sloan
Mary CHESNUT died in 1793. She married Andrew GRIMBS Graham.
Dear Philip and Millie,
I am having a real problem here. The data you are sending me says:
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
You have a will of Andrew Graham dated 1821 which lists numerous children including Andrew who was born in 1808.
This means that Andrew Graham lived to be 101 years old and fathered a child when he was 88 years old!
The other possibility is that there are two Andrew Grahams.
I personally hope that I will be able to father children when I am 88 years old, but not many men can do that nor are many men married as many times or have as many children as Andrew Graham seems to have had.
Are you sure that this is just one man, and not two? Am I missing something?
Sam Sloan
On the other question, I am now convinced that the Andrew Graham born in 1720 and the Andrew Graham born in 1753 are two different people. I notice that you did not respond to my question about that.
Sam Sloan
3. What difference does it make if Andrew Graham had two wives or three? You are descended from his first wife. I think that I am descended from his last. What difference does it make if he had one in the middle? Is someone descended from her?
Sam Sloan
Andrew GRIMBS Graham [Parents] 1, 2 was born about 1753 in County Antrim, Ireland. He died on 11 Mar 1821 in Todd County, Kentucky. He married Margaret PHILLIPS.
Other marriages:, Margaret
COULTER, Margaret
CHESNUT, Mary
Andrew Grimbs arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772. In January, 1773 he was granted 100 acres of land in Chester County, South Carolina. The land grant gives his name as Andrew Grimbs, See Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772: (Rev. William Martin and His Five Shiploads of Settlers) by Jean Stephenson, page 74.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/PaFarmer.htm
Later, the family started using the name Graham rather than Grimbs. This has caused controversy among genealogists.
There are doubts and questions about Andrew Graham. Everything about him is doubtful, including his date of birth, the names and number of the wives he had, and which children were by which wife,
There was a criminal case brought in Belfast Ireland in 1772 against a man named Andrew Graham. The index to the Belfast News-Letter shows an Andrew Graham in a list of persons named in relation to a rising or riot at Kilconway, county Antrim reported on page 2 of the edition of 17 March 1772. There are several other mentions of Graham, Andrew in the index, but this was the only one for 1772.
See: http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/
Index to Belfast Newsletter 1737-1800The IGI lists a person named Andrew Grahams who was born 18 SEP 1755 Donaghmore, Tyrone, Ireland. His mother was Jane and his father was James Grahams. In spite of the differences, this could be the same person.
My great-great-great-grandfather was Andrew Graham who was born in Ireland in "About 1753". His mother was Janet and his father was David Graham. Andrew Grahams was born 18 SEP 1755 and his mother was Jane and his father was James Grahams. In spite of the two years difference in dates, the difference between Janet and Jane and the difference between David Graham and James Grahams, there is enough similarity that further checking is appropriate.
One possibility concerns the fact that my Andrew was the eldest of eight children. When a man died it was customary for his brother to marry the widow. So, it is possible that James died and David the next brother married Jane or Janet. The fact that Andrew had a different father from the others was just never mentioned.
A Graham family history is at http://proni.nics.gov.uk/records/private/graham.htm
The DAR Patriot Index Centennial Edition Part III, (Washington: NSDAR, 1994), page 1203, says:
Andrew: b c 1734 IR d a 5-9-1821 KY m (1)Margaret Coalton (2) Mary Chestnut (3) Margaret ___ Sol PS SC
Andrew Graham arrived in America just in time to serve in the American Revolutionary War.
I have been compiling my family tree. I am taking information mostly compiled by people who are now deceased and putting it into my computer. According to one website, my great-great-great-great-grandmother was named Mary Stuart, who was born in Ireland 1729. http://www.anusha.com/pafg31.htm#906 .
The story that one of the wives of Andrew Graham was descended from the Kings of Scotland has been around since at least 1800. However, I doubt that the story is true. One entry I have come across says that she was the great-great granddaughter of King James I of Scotland, by his second wife, a commoner. However, the Kings of Scotland did not have "second wives" who were commoners. Instead, they had mistresses and bastard children, in great number. The different King James of Scotland often had many mistresses, especially King James IV and King James V.
I have found a brief biography of James I of Scotland (1397-1437). However, he lived too long ago to be the great-great-grandfather of Mary Stuart.They might mean James I of England, who was also James VI of Scotland. It is nevertheless intriguing to think that this Mary Stuart might be part of the famous Stuart Royal Family of England. The name certainly sounds like the name of a member of the British Royal Family.
Mary Stuart was married to Robert Coulter. Robert Coulter was born in Scotland about 1723. He left Scotland 1746-47 after the battle of Culloden. He fought on the side of Bonnie Prince Charles. Seems a price was put his head so he left Scotland.
A website family tree which deals with the descendants of Mary Stuart (but not with her ancestors) is at
http://www.uftree.com/UFT/WebPages/tallen/ROBERT/A big problem I have been having with my family tree concerns Andrew Graham, husband of Margaret Coulter, who was the daughter of Mary Stuart. Andrew Graham died in 1821. One group says he was born in 1753 and was married twice. The other group says he was born in 1720, lived to be 101 years old, was married three times and had 11 children and that I am a descendant of the wife in the middle which according to the first group did not exist.
Both sides have documents proving their cases. I tend to favor the side that says he was born in 1753. However, this problem has made it difficult for me to extend my family tree. The other side, which says that Andrew Graham was born in 1720 and died in 1821 at the age of 101, has a website at
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/l/a/Millie-A-Clarke-/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0458.html
I believe that website contains several mistakes. It also makes Andrew Graham older than his father, David Graham.Andrew Graham fought in the American Revolutionary War. Andrew Graham was in the Revolutionary War; was taken prisoner and condemned to death, but the battle of Yorktown and the close of the war saved his life.
This is one of the factors which has led me to believe that he was born in 1753, because that would make him 23 when the war started, a suitable age to be fighting. There is no doubt that he fought in that war, because several applications to join the "Daughters of the American Revolution" have been filed by his descendants.
My great-great-great-great grandfather David Graham came from Ireland with his wife and children on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer which left Belfast 16 October 1772 and arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772.
He arrived just in time to send two of his sons, one of which was my great-great-great grandfather, Andrew Graham, to fight in the American Revolutionary War.
There is one school of thought that Andrew had 3 wives, including Mary Chestnut as the second wife. But apparently one researcher could find no proof that she was ever Andrew's wife. There isn't any particular proof she wasn't his wife either, and exactly who was the child of which mother seems to mostly come from the Andrew Graham will.
My information comes from several sources. First and foremost from a suitcase found in my mother's house which was "to be deposited into a suitable waste disposal site" by order of Judge Michael Gamble of the Lynchburg Circuit Court issued in 1994 at the request of my brother, Creighton Sloan.
That suitcase which I found and rescued contained the numerous old photos such as the photos of my grandmother Mary Graham when she was a little girl in 1882 and her mother in 1864. I scanned and posted those photos on my web site in 1995 and that was the seed that started this, when people started writing me letters about them.
http://www.samsloan.com/gg-mom.htm
http://www.samsloan.com/gg-mom-2.htmNext, my brother Creighton sent me some information he had assembled, which was strange because Creighton has been fighting with me and our mother for 30 years and has never before or since sent me a friendly letter.
I believe that what Creighton sent me was largely based on Philip Graham's book plus updates reflecting current family members and new children born.
Then, I often get bits and pieces of information from people who see my web site and add a relative or two.
My grandmother Mary Graham married Wesley Jacobson, who was Swedish. On the Swedish side, I get lots of letters because Wesley Jacobson's grandfather led the first Swedish settlement in Iowa and they are mentioned in history books, research papers, doctoral thesis and so on, so I am constantly getting new information or inquiries about that.
In about 1959 in the summer I went to a golden wedding anniversary for one of my Graham relatives in Northeastern Iowa. More than one hundred relatives were there. I wish I could remember who it was whose anniversary we were celebrating.
We had an old family tree in the 1950s. According to this tree, which I never personally saw, we were related to the sister of John Paul Jones, the Scot captain who became American and fought against the British in the American Revolutionary War. However, I have doubts about this. I have tried to backtrack this idea and have gotten nowhere. Still, other researchers have informed me that we are related to the Paul family in some way.
My uncle Newell Jacobson who lived in Florida later told me that he had that family tree. However, Newell died in 1989 and I do not know what happened to the old family tree. I believe it was made by a commercial company and not by a family member.
Every researcher agrees that I am the great-great-great-grandson of Andrew Graham. However, some say that I am descended from his first wife, some say that I am descended from his last wife and some say that I am descended from his middle wife, who others say did not exist.
I can just imagine when, 300 years from now, researchers try to figure out my five wives and eight children.
Sam Sloan
Here is one of the problems.
This letter says:
Graham-Mills Line
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
However, mine says that Andrew Graham was born in 1753 and married Margaret Coultor and that he died in 1821.
That is only the beginning. There are many other differences, so I feel that these are not the same people but two different people.
What do you think?
Sam Sloan
Dear Philip and Millie,
I am having a real problem here. The data you are sending me says:
Andrew Graham, born Scotland 1720, married first 1750 Margaret Coulton, born 1725 Scotland, died SC; married second Mary Chestnut, born ?, died 1793; married third 1800 Margaret Phillips, died 1820.
You have a will of Andrew Graham dated 1821 which lists numerous children including Andrew who was born in 1808.
This means that Andrew Graham lived to be 101 years old and fathered a child when he was 88 years old!
The other possibility is that there are two Andrew Grahams.
I personally hope that I will be able to father children when I am 88 years old, but not many men can do that nor are many men married as many times or have as many children as Andrew Graham seems to have had.
Are you sure that this is just one man, and not two? Am I missing something?
Sam Sloan
Sam - The main reason is that both deal with the family line of Jennet Graham Mills, wife of Adam Mills, who was the daughter of Andrew Graham. We have to find something in the records to either support these two items or refute them. Phil
Fought in the American Revolutionary War in Capt. Alexander Turner's Company in the Upper Battalion of Samuel Richardson's Regiment under the command of Major Joseph Brown. See militia's roster as of 21 December 1778 in the Andrew Richardson papers in the library of the University of South Carolina. He is listed as Andrew Grimbs.
Taken prisoner and condemned to death. Saved by Battle of Yorktown and end of war
Immigration: Bef. 1776, from Scotland. Military service: ABT 1776, Served in Revolutionary War in militia
Occupation: Militiaman. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/l/a/Millie-A-Clarke-/index.htmls: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-1989" pages 64-74
Name also written Grumbs, Grimbs, and Grimes
Probably born in County Antrim, Ireland. Died between 11 March (date of will) and May 1821 (date of probate).
Came with parents to SC in 1772. Received land in SC on 17 March 1775.
There is a big problem with Andrew Graham because some say that he had two wives and was born in 1753 and others say he had three wives and was born in 1720 and died at the age of 101. Until this problem is solved, it will not be possible to be certain of the family trees of his ancestors and descendants.
Here is a note about this:
I finished xeroxing pages from the Graham genealogy book. I still need to make a print out of the supplemental material - which I plan to finish today - so that I can get the material out in the mail to you.
Attached is a text file on the family line of John McKee (died in Chester County SC, fall of 1794). This John McKee may possibly have been related to your Janet McKee Mills. As you can see from the text, Adams Mills named as one of the excutors to the will of John McKee. Some of the children of John & Nancy McKee moved with the Grahams to the area of Todd County KY. Martha B. McKee married Robert C. Graham, son of Andrew Graham. William McKee was named as one of the excutors to the will of Adams Mills, along with Matthew Graham & Robert C. Graham. John McKee was appointed guardian to two of Andrew Graham's children - Nancy Graham & Thomas P. Graham. Nancy Wilson, wife of John McKee, was the sister of Janette Wilson, wife of Matthew Graham (son of Andrew Graham) - children of John Wilson & Martha. I have more information on this Wilson family if your interested. As you can see there was a close association between this line of John McKee (died 1794) with the Grahams & Mills family.
Your information on Mary Chestnut as a wife of Andrew Graham has been a real puzzle to me. I do not have any proof (birth records or will records) as to which children of Andrew Graham were by which wife. I feel that the birth dates of the children of Andrew Graham (by which ever wife) are more accurate than those listed in your account. Those dates with day-month-year are from cemetery records; those with approximate dates are from census records - which are iffy.
Here is an outline of what I found on the wives of Andrew Graham. There is more detailed information in the pages which I will be sending you.
1. Margaret Coulter. The first record of Margaret Coulter is on 6 February 1773 she received land grant of 100 acres (amount granted a single adult) in what was then Craven County later Chester County SC. Margaret's siblings (Mary Ann, Archibald & Robert S) also received land grants in Chester County SC at this time. On 3 July 1791, Andrew Graham & his wife Margaret sold to Hugh McMillan the 100 acres warranted to Margaret Coulter in 1773 (Chester County SC Deed Bk E, page 263). The only other deed records in Chester County SC which lists Andrew Graham with a wife was made on 5 January 1790 where Andrew & Margaret Graham sold to Lard Burns the 100 acres granted to Andrew "Grimbs" on 17 March 1775. This deed is the prime proof connecting the spelling of Grimbs to the Grahams.
The death date for Margaret Coulter Graham is unknown. On April 1790 Andrew Graham was among the men appointed overseer for the construction of a road in Chester County SC. He was relieved of this duty and another man was appointed in his stead in September 1792. Mrs Kell felt that Margaret Coulter Graham may have been ill or died about this time & may have accounted for Andrew's release at this time. Robert C. Graham was born 11 July 1792 (from his tombstone in Spring Grove Cemetery, Warren County IL). Margaret Coulter Graham's father was Robert Coulter. So we assumed that Robert C. Graham was the son of Margaret Coulter Graham & that she may have died sometime after the birth.
2. Mary Chestnut. We could not find any records in Chester County SC with "Mary" as a wife of Andrew Graham. Not all the land deeds for Andrew Graham listed a wife - so there is a gap. The Grahams were associated with the family of David Chestnut of Chester County SC. I have information on the Chestnuts but I can not put my hands on it at the moment. There is a webpage on the Chestnut - again I am not sure of exact address but will send it later. Over the years I have looked into the Chestnut family of Chester County SC & I have been unable to link Andrew Graham to any of them. Oddly, I have been unable to find a "Mary" listed among the early Chestnut family, although it is a common name. Alexander Chestnut, son of David, moved to the area of Todd County KY along with the Grahams, McKees & Coulters. I can not prove or disprove Mary Chesnut as a wife of Andrew Graham. Mrs Kell felt very strongly about documentation. She felt that since there is no document to support Mary Chestnut as a wife of Andrew Graham that it should be discounted.
3. Margaret surname unknown. At the time of Andrew Graham's will (1821 Todd County KY) his wife as Margaret. There are deed records in Todd County KY that record the widow Margaret Graham until 1829. She apparently moved to Morgan County IL with her son (assuming it was her son) William Mills Graham. There is a deed record for Margaret Graham in Morgan County IL in 1835. It was at this time that William Mills Graham, along with Margaret Graham & his sister Nancy Graham Popham, moved from Morgan County IL to Henderson County IL. They joined the South Henderson Presbyterian Church in 1836. An elderly woman was listed in the 1840 census of Henderson County IL in the household of Ezekiel Popham (husband of Nancy Graham). The census records from 1800 to 1840 indicate that Margaret Graham was born between 1770 & 1774. This range in birth date would indicate that this Margaret is not the same woman as Margaret Coulter - who recieved a land grant as an adult in 1773.
Mrs Kell was very much a believer in the naming pattern of children. The eldest son was named after the husband's father, the second son was named after the wife's father. The eldest daughter was named after the husband's mother, the second daughter was named after the wife's mother. The early Grahams seemed to have followed this pattern. Based on the assumptions that Margaret Coulter Graham died in 1792 or shortly after; Andrew Graham married again to another Margaret by whom he had Martha Graham & William Mills Graham; therefore the surname of Margaret may have been "Mills" and her parents were William Mills & Martha. No proofs but assumptions.
Another observation. The middle name "Mills" was used for a son of William Mills Graham (John Mills Graham 1842-1926), and also in the son of John Mills Graham (Oley Mills Graham 1876-1946). The name "Chestnut" was not used among any of the children or grandchildren of Andrew Graham (died 1821 Todd County KY).
Thomas P. Graham (1803-1889), son of Andrew Graham (d. 1821 Todd County KY) - I have not found anything that indicates his middle name as "Phillips". The records in Todd County KY show that "P" was his middle initial. I have not been able to find a Phillips family associated with the Grahams in either SC or KY.
That is a summary of my thoughts on the wives of Andrew Graham. I hope to get down to the DAR Library to look at the DAR application of Janet Allen Schmidt, 26 January 1929. Do you want a copy of the DAR application of Mary Bruington & a copy of the Harding letter? The Harding letter (dated 30 June 1970) contains the same information as your graham.doc file.
Phil Graham
I have found a brief biography of James I of Scotland (1397-1437)
However, he lived too long ago to be the great-grandfather of Levi, I believe.
It is intriguing to think that this Mary Stuart might be part of the famous Stuart royal family of England
Sam Sloan
At 12:33 PM 3/1/2001 EST, Tonynell@aol.com wrote:
Good morning Sam! I will give you what information I have. I hope it helps.
Some of it was given to me by a lady who is a decadent of Robert Stuart Coulter a brother of Mary Ann's.
She has it that Levi was either a grandson or great grandson of James the 1st of Scotland. James was married twice his second wife a commoner and that is where Levi comes in.
Robert Coulter was born in Scotland about 1723. He left Scotland 1746-47 after the battle of Culloden. He fought on the side of Bonnie Prince Charles.
Seems a price was put his head so he left Scotland.
Robert married Mary Stuart before 1753. Mary was born 1729 in Ireland. Both died in Chester South Carolina. Robert 1783. I don't seem to have a date for
Mary. Their children are as follows:
Archibald b-1753
Margaret b- about 1755
Mary Ann b-about 1752
Elizabeth b-about 1758
Robert Stuart b-1760
All were born in Tyrone Co. Ireland.
Mary Ann married John Stevenson in South Carolina. They later went to Kentucky. Mary died there about 1824 on cancer of the face. John returned to SC he lived to be 101 years old and is buried in Murray Co., GA. He served in the Revolutionary War. He was a blacksmith. did this during the war, As I understand it never saw any combat. He came to the states in 1772 with his mother. The story goes that his father and siblings came earlier planning to meet but they never found each other again. He came here via Charleston
S.C.John and Mary Ann had seven children.
Robert b-about 1778 d 1831. This is my gr gr grandfather.
Mary b-about 1780.
Andrew b- August 30th 1783 d-July 16th1857. Andrew was married four times.
William b-about 1785
John b-Dec 24th 1785 d-Sept 11th 1835
Elizabeth b-about 1788 d-before 1854.
Margaret b-about 1792 d-before 1835.
All seem to be born in Mecklenburg N.C.
Think that is all you would like to know. Some you most likely know. the lady I spoke of thinks Robert Coulter's father name was Archibald being his oldest son was named that. There is a submission that says Norman, So I have no idea. Hope this is of interest to you. NellieFrom notes on Andrew Graham:
Andrew Graham was in the Revolutionary War; was taken prisoner and condemned to death, but the battle of Yorktown and the close of the war saved his life.
Margaret Coalton Graham's deeds of patriotism, bravery, and self denial were household words in South Carolina.
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From David Graham of Chester County, South Carolina and His Descendants 1772 - 1989 by Katharine Tolle Kell and Philip James Graham; Birmingham, MI 1990, p 65"Andrew, listed in the South Carolina Council Journal as Andrew 'Grumbs', came to America with his parents and siblings on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer, which left Belfast on 16 October 1772 and arrived at Charleston, South Carolina, on 19 December 1772. He was part of the Rev. William Martin's grou of five shiploads of settlers. On 6 January 1773 he went with the others before the South Carolina General Assembly to request land and on 17 March 1775, as Andrew 'Grimbs', received the single-person's grant of 100 acres. The land was in Craven (laterChester) County on Rocky Creek and was bounded by the lands of James Knox, Francis Henderson,
Benjamin Mitchell, and Laird Burns (Royal Grant, Vol. 35, p. 307; and Collonial Plats, Vol. 16, P. 243."
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From Philip Graham:"It is now known that Andrew and his family moved from South Carolina to
Kentucky in 1805-1806, because 1806 was the earliest year in which his name
appeared on the Kentucky Tax Rolls. He was listed in 1806 Logan County Tax
Rolls with an estate of 200 acres of "second rate land" on the Elk Fork,
and owned one slave and three horses or mules. Matthew Graham, Andrew's
son, and Adam Mills, Andrew's son-in-law (husband of Jennet Graham) also
first appeared on the Logan-Christian County Tax rolls in 1806. Another
whose name first appeared on the Christian County Tax Rolls in 1806 was
John McKee, probably the father of Martha B. McKee who later married
Andrew's son Robert C. Graham. Probably serveral families, including the
Grahams, Mills, Wilsons, and McKees, migrated as a group from South
Carolina to Kentucky in the winter of 1805-6."Andrew continued to be listed in Logan County Tax Rolls until 1817. In
the 1807 Tax Rolls, Andrew's property was described as 238 acres of "third
rate land", one slave and two horses or mules. In 1810 he owned 238 acres
of "third rate land" a slave and five horses. In 1815 he paid taxes on 109
acres patented to B. Allen plus 138 acres of "third rate land", a slave and
four horses. In 1815 his land was valued at $5 an acre, and the total
value of his property including his slave and his horses was
$1,740. .... In 1817 he owned 238 acres of land plus one slave and five
horses or jacks, with a total value of $1897."No tax list is extant for Logan County in 1818. In 1819 Andrew was listed
in Christian County (then next to Logan County)> He owned 240 acres of
"second rate" land, one slave, five horses,etc. totalling $2,955. Later in
1819, the area in Christian County where Andrew and his family lived became
part of the newly established Todd County. The 1820 tax record for Todd
County was the last Kentucky listing for Andrew Graham; he still owned 240
acres of "second rate" land, one slave, five horses, etc. totaling $2,825."Andrew died between March and May of 1821, but not until 1824 when his
estate was settled did his widow, Margaret, appear on the Todd County tax
rolls. At that time no land was listed in her name, but she did own one
slave, one horse, etc., at a total value of $775."William McKee, brother-in-law of Robert C. Graham, appeared as executor to
the estate of Andrew Graham in the Todd County Tax Rolls between
1821-23. In 1821 Andrew Graham's estate consisted of 346 acres, one slave,
four horses, etc.; and in 1822 the estate consisted of the same amount of
land plus three horses, etc., but no slaves. By 1823 the estate amounted
to 220 acres on Rain Lick Creek, no slave, one horse, etc. totaling
$1,360. In 1824 William was no longer listed as Andrew's executor,
presumably because the esate had been settled."It is interesting that William did ot list Andrew's slave, Sandy, in 1822
and 1823. Andrew bequeathed Sandy to his widow and daughters, but they did
not emancipate Sandy until 1829. In the 1837 and 1838 Todd County Tax
rolls, Sandy Graham was listed as a free black."... accounts... from the probate records of the estate of Andrew Graham
(Todd County Court House Will Book A p. 169-175). Andrew Graham apparently
continued to work in the blacksmith trade up until his latter years as two
of theses accounts were due the estate for blacksmith work."March 1822, Robert E Acock received $10 from Robert C. Graham,
administrator of the estate of Andrew Graham, for the schooling of Thomas
Graham, Son of Andrew Graham decd." ............In the appraisal bill of the estate of Andrew Graham dated 23 May 1821 and
presented to the June Term 1821 Todd County Court (Todd County Will Book A
P. 23-24):
(summarized and excerpted here)
7 cows, 6 calves, 3 heifers, 16 head of hogs, 2 sows,and 10 pigs totaling
$126.50.
3 horses totaling $225. Waggon gear $130.
1 black man Sandy valued at $700.
Several plows, hoes, axes, bridles, saddle, saddle bag, side
saddle, branding iron, etc.
2 flat irons, grind stone, sickle, coffee mill, churn and basket, milk
crocks, water pails.
Furniture: 2 chests, 4 beds: 1 bedstead, 2 bed do & do, 1 bed do.
Kitchen: press, kettle and pot hooks, tea kettle, small pot and skillet, 2
ovens and lids, hand irons.
Cupboard furniture: Dining table and linnen, bureau, brass candlestick,
small trunk, looking glass, cotton wheel, 5 chairs.
Total value of itemized list: $1574.
J. Brown, J.D Goren?, John McKee appraisers and Wm. McKee, Matthew Grahm,
Robert C. Graham, executors.Sam,
I am a descendent of Jennet Graham Mills, daughter of Andrew Graham. I am
her fourth-great granddaughter. The name Janet stuck around our family --
it was my dad's sister's name and is my middle name.Attached are the OCR scans of the two transcribed wills as they appear in
Philip Graham's book. Since the form of the wills I have from the book
were transcribed, not scanned, copies of the original handwritten
documents, there was no point in sending you all those bits of the pure
scan, and this text is much friendlier. If you put it anywhere please
retain the credit to the authors of the book who did all the research.Where did you get all your other information? Through Philip Graham? It
seems to conform to the genealogy of the book. You can't tell from the
will that William's middle name is Mills -- just says William M. Graham --
and since my Jennet Graham married Adam Mills (son of William Mills) it
would seem there might be cause for some confusion (or she married a
step-cousin or something...)Anyway -- my records which came through another source and may be suspect
give Andrew's three wives as Margaret Coulter (probably misspelled...),
Mary Chestnut, and Margaret Phillips. Andrew's will does not provide the
maiden name of the second wife, and the only Mills mentioned in the will is
Jennet Mills, my great x4 grandmother.Also, it is clear from these documents there was some tie of the Graham and
Chestnut families -- since James Chestnut witnessed David Graham's will,
and the slave Sandy when freed lived in the household with an Isaac
Chestnut. Not nearly enough to prove a marriage of course....Regards,
MILLIESam & Millie-
Just a few thoughts-
1. I still have not been able to find my copy of the picture of William Mills & Jane (Popham) Graham. Cal & Velores Graham sent me a copy of the picture several years ago. I will write to them for another copy. Their address is: Calvin Graham, Box 256, Clinton Arkansas, 72031. Cal is a gr gr grandson of William Mills Graham through is son James Thomas Graham (1836-1921). Cal & Velores were the source of "Mills" as the middle name of William Mills Graham. They did not have any proof of "Mills" as the middle name, just family lore. Last year Velores sent me a copy of a land purchase from the Illinois Public Land Office dated 10 October 1840 for "William Mills Graham of Morgan County IL" for 160 acres in NE quarter of section 13, township 10 north, range 5 west. This would be land in Warren County IL. This land grand is the first "proof" for "Mills" as the middle name for William Mills Graham. Just as a side note - Cal & Velores told me that when they first started family research that they were told that William Mills Graham was born in Wheeling West Virginia.
2. I can not decide what to do concerning the # of wives for Andrew Graham (d. 1821) & which children were born by which wife. I am certain about the names of the children - as Andrew's probate record is the primary source. That 1791 Chester County SC deed for Andrew Graham & his first wife, Margaret Coulter, certainly proves that Margaret Coulter was the first wife & still alive in 1791. However the records do not provide anything to clear up Mary Chestnut as a possible wife of Andrew nor for "Phillips" as the surname of Margaret (Andrew's widow).
The name "Mills" does appear a number of times in several generations of Andrew's grandchildren & great grandchildren. The name "Ches(t)nut" is not appear at all as far as I can determine. Maybe something will turn up in the records to shed light on this problem.
3. There is connection a Paul family but I am not clear about this data or have good documentation. The Pauls listed below were connected somehow to John Paul Jones - but I do not know how. Margaret Coulter (wife of Andrew Graham, d. 1821) was the daughter of Robert Coulter & Mary Stuart. Mary Stuart was the daughter of a Levi Stuart. Here is an outline-
First Generation
1. Levi Stuart
Children:
1. Elizabeth Stuart
2. Mary Stuart
3. Margaret StuartSecond Generation
1. Elizabeth Stuart, married --- Paul. Child: (1) John Paul, born 1780 SC, died 1841 Washington County IL, married Mary Morton, daughter of Thomas Morton (1736-1790/1806) & Elizabeth Paul.2. Mary Stuart, married Robert Coulter
3. Margaret Stuart, married Alexander Morton.
Children:
1. Thomas Morton, born 1736 Ireland, died 1790/1806 Chester County SC, buried Paul's Cemetery, married Elizabeth Paul.
2. Jane Morton, born 1738, died 1817 Chester County SC, buried Paul's Cemetery, married John Kell.Phil
Sam-
I think we dealing with the same Andrew Graham. The main reason is that both deal with the family line of Jennet Graham Mills, wife of Adam Mills, who was the daughter of Andrew Graham.
I do think Millie Clarke's information is in error in regards to the (1) birth & death dates of Andrew; (2) maiden name of his first wife Margaret Coulter; (3) the order, names & birth dates of the children.
The two items that I can not prove in error is (1) marriage to Mary Chestnut and (3) Phillips as the surname of Andrew's widow, Margaret. We have to find something in the records to either support these two items or refute them.
Phil
Sam Sloan-
On your questions:
1. When Mrs Kell made the first printing of the book she spent around $3000
of her own money. She sold the book at cost at around $20 each. I do have
a copy of book in unbound form. What I have thought of doing is going to
Kinkos to see how much it would be to make xerox copies & then seeing how
many copies various people would want to purchase. Mrs Kell & I were
working on a supplement (which I still add on information). If I had the
time, energy & talent what I should do is make a complete revision and print
up a new book.2. I do not have a homepage on the internet, yet. Again, it is something I
have thought about but have not gotten around to doing anything about.3. It would be great to finalize the number of wives of Andrew Graham & his
children's mother. According to Millie Clarke's information, William M.
Graham is the son of Andrew through the middle wife, Mary Ches(t)nut.Phil Graham
Back to the original question:
I would like to try to add a few leaves to My Family Tree.
First I need to explain that the box of photographs handed down from Henrietta Jacobson (1884-1969) just gave his name as William Graham 1799-1881. The middle name of Mills was not mentioned. I got the middle name of Mills and the dates of 1801-1882 from another source.
Since Henrietta was born just after he died, she might have known something about him and her dates might be correct.
Henrietta was not related to him, but her sister-in-law, Mary Graham, my grandmother, was his granddaughter.
By the way, I just assume that Henrietta assembled these documents. I found them in my mother's house in a pile of stuff that was about to be taken to a garbage dump pursuant to a court order by Judge Michael Gamble issued at the request of my brother, Creighton Sloan. I had to file for bankruptcy in order to stop the destruction of these and other family documents. It is possible that my mother got these documents and the photographs from her own mother, Mary Graham, and not from her Aunt Henrietta.
There are a few people still alive who would know, especially my Uncle Alden Jacobson who lives in Melbourne, Florida, 1-321-779-2204, but due to a family rift I cannot ask him. (Did I forget to tell you that Alden dropped the Bomb on Nagasaki?)
Please note that there are two persons named William Mills Graham. The other one was the son of Matthew Graham who was the son of Andrew Graham and Margaret Coulter. This seems very strange and surprising and frankly looks likely to be wrong.
So, I want to ask you: Of what are you completely certain? How many wives are you certain that Andrew Graham had and how many and which children are you certain that he had?
Sam Sloan
Margaret PHILLIPS was born in 1770/1774. She married Andrew GRIMBS Graham.
David GRIMBS GRAHAM 1 was born about 1731 in County Antrim, Ireland. He died in 1799/1800 in Chester County, South Carolina. He married Janet about 1753 in Ireland.
My great-great-great-great grandfather David Grimbs or Graham was probably born in Ballymoney, County Antrim, Ireland in about 1731. He arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772. In January, 1773 he was granted 400 acres of land near a branch of Rocky Creek in Chester County, South Carolina. The land grant gives his name as David Grimbs, See Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772: (Rev. William Martin and His Five Shiploads of Settlers) by Jean Stephenson, page 74. Three of his children, Andrew, Jean and Matthew Grimbs, received 100 acres each.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/PaFarmer.htm
The family also used the name Graham rather than Grimbs. This has caused controversy among genealogists and historians.
s: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772- 1989" pages 61-64
His name was also written as Grimbs and Grimes. Many other variations. Possibly born in Ballymoney, County Antrim, Ireland. Died between 2 April 1795 (date of will) and 18 November 1800 (probate of will).
The IGI has a David Graham born in Templecorran, Antrim County, Ireland in 1732 and who died on 09 JUN 1799 but does not say where he died. His wife was Jane, who was born in Templecorran, Antrim County, Ireland in 1730 and died 08 JUL 1817. They were married in about 1751. That David Graham was the son of Mr. and Mrs. Brice Graham. This is by no means a perfect match but close enough to raise the possibility that this might be the same person. Brice Graham was born in 1695 and died in December 1784.
The Public Record of Northern Ireland contains the Graham Papers. http://proni.nics.gov.uk/records/private/graham.htm
"The Graham Papers (D/812, MIC/305 AND T/3263) The Graham papers comprise c.4,700 documents and c.95 volumes, 1741, 1777 and 1791-1957, and consist primarily of: title, deeds, leases, wills, accounts, correspondence, etc, 1741, 1777 and 1791-1957, relating to Graham property in and around Lisburn, Co. Antrim, and in Belfast."
There was a criminal case brought in Belfast Ireland in 1772 against a man named Andrew Graham. The index to the Belfast News-Letter shows an Andrew Graham in a list of persons named in relation to a rising or riot at Kilconway, county Antrim reported on page 2 of the edition of 17 March 1772. There are several other mentions of Graham, Andrew in the index, but this was the only one for 1772.
See: http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/
Index to Belfast Newsletter 1737-1800Their Landlord, Lord Donegall, was known for drinking and gambling and in 1770 needed ready cash, so he had raised their rents so high that they could not possibly pay it. This led the Rev. Martin to give a sermon in which he proposed that all members of his church accompany him to South Carolina, where they had been promised free land. A total of 1200 persons decided to join him. It took five ships to carry them all to South Carolina.
David Graham and his wife and children were among five shiploads of settlers led by the Rev. William Martin from Ulster to South Carolina. They were on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer leaving Belfast on 16 October 1772 and arriving Charleston 19 December 1772.
Each household was promised 100 acres of land plus 50 additional acres for a wife and each child. This explains why David Graham brought along his wife and then seven children. This gave him the right to a total of 500 acres of land. This land was only available on the recommendation of a minister of a church. This explains why it was necessary for the Rev. William Martin to accompany the group, so that they could get their land. The first ship arrived two months before the ship bringing Rev. Martin, so the passengers on that ship had to wait two months for him to come. Those passengers stayed on the ship, which was anchored next to an island off of South Carolina. They were allowed to get off the ship and go onto the island. This was also because there had been smallpox on the ship and five children had died.
The reason the other four ships came two months late was that their farmers had waited to bring in their crops in Ireland before leaving. Because of this, they had more than enough food with them on the ship, plus they had money to pay for their journey.
Some family members remained behind, planning to come later. However, the American Revolutionary War broke out right after this and that stopped all immigration from Ireland to America. The families became separated and never re-united.
There is a book about this at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0806348321/slavesofthomasje
As the beginning, South Carolina stayed out of the American Revolutionary War. However, in 1780 British Troops invaded South Carolina. This led Rev. William Martin to give a sermon. He said that they had been driven from Scotland to Ireland by the British and then they had been driven from Ireland to America by the British. Now the British are trying to drive them from here. There are times to pray and times to fight, and now is the time to fight.
This led David Graham and two of his sons, Andrew and James, to join into the American Revolutionary War. Andrew was captured and taken prisoner. A son named Matthew died during the war, but it is not known how he died or if he died in the war. The youngest son, James, was most actively involved in the fighting.
The Rev. Martin was captured by the British and taken before Cornwallis. However, a Col. Phillips who knew the Rev . Martin from Scotland happened to be present and prevailed upon Cornwallis to free him. Rev. Martin fled to Charlotte, North Carolina and sat out the rest of the war. When the war was over, he returned but found that his house had been burned by the British. Rev. Martin spent the rest of his life traveling around preaching, where he was in great demand.
Sam Sloan
Sam, I checked my Cd to see what they had on David and found him twice in the naturalization records of Chester county on p. 165 and p. 202. also p. 58 it mentioned residence from 1781 - 1810. on the 1800 census he is listed on page p. 94. p. 73 of the 1790 census. p 29 & 33 of the jury lists for Chester county from 1778 - 1779. He is in the will book p 32 which says he was a blacksmith and dated 1799 - 1802. It is in the county records in book B page 32. There are also wills for James, John and Mary Graham in the will lists. I don't know how to get a hard copy of the Stephenson book. Genealogy.com may be able to help or google.
The Rev Martin came from Kellswater RP church in Antrim, and everyone that came with him most likely was nearby. A history of the congregation and many of those families are written about in standard local histories of Mid Antrim.
On 6 Jan. 1773, David Graham went with group to SC General Assembly to request land grants. David was among few who could pay fee of about 5 pds per 100 acres, others received land as bounty.
My great-great-great-great grandfather David Graham came from Ireland with his wife and children on the ship Pennsylvania Farmer which left Belfast 16 October 1772 and arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772.
He arrived just in time to send two of his sons, one of which was my great-great-great grandfather, Andrew Graham, to fight in the American Revolutionary War.
Sam Sloan
About David Graham
Quotes from the out of print book, "David Graham of Chester County, South Carolina and His Descendants, 1772-1989 by Katharine Tolle Kell and Philip James Graham":
p. 35 "In time, proof that the Graham name was first often written as Grimes or Grimbs was found in three sets of documents, copies of which were acquired. First the land which Andrew Grimbs received in 1775 was clearly described in the grant; in 1790 Andrew Graham sold the land which had been granted to him, and its description in the deed of sale matched the description in the grant to Andrew Grimbs in 1775. Also in this deed, Andrew is generally referred to as Graham except in one passage, and in that passage he is called Grimes. Second, David Graham's audited Revolutionary accounts contained two documents dated less than a month apart; in the first, he was called David Grimes, and the second David Graham. Finally, in James Graham's audited Revolutionary accounts there is a letter dated 1785 in which the writer stated that James's accounts audited bore the name James Grimes whereas James signed his name to the order for his Indent as James Graham. Many years later, James applied for a pension and was refused at first because of the spelling variation." NOTE: copies of these documents are in the book which I obtained from Philip Graham.
Why the Graham's immigrated is explained in this book, beginning on page 13. Conditions in Ireland in the mid 1700s were those of economic depression, with "rack-renting, low wages, inflation, drought, crop failures, famine -- all these factors, either singly or in combination, signalling new floods of immigration. But the most concentrated period of migration was during the four years of 1771-74 when rack renting skyrocketed.... Lord Donegall's estate in County Antrim was a special case. In 1770 he wanted ready cash, so he kept the rents at their former level but assessed fines amounting to 100,00 pounds as compensation. These fines, which were three or four times the rent, were far beyond the ability of anyone to pay, and the tenants were evicted or their leases were turned
over to middlemen. Many tenants then erupted into violence...""The Graham family .. may have been among the unfortunate tenants on Lord Donegall's estate. The reason it is thought so is that they were probably parishioners of the church at which the Rev. William Martin was the pastor at the Kellswater congregation in County Antrim. Another family belonging to the church were the Stephensons who, according to a story handed down through the generations and recounted by Jean Stephenson, had cousins among Donegall's tenants. The story is as follow: the cousins, whose name was Beck, had not been able to pay their rent, and early in 1772 a land agent came to collect it at the very time Mrs. Beck was giving birth with great difficulty to her first child. Mr. Beck, who was tall, strong, and heavy, picked up the agent and literally threw him out of the house. The agent's neck was broken when he hit the ground. Mrs. Beck and her baby died; Mr. Beck disappeared, and nothing more is known of him. The following Sunday, so the story goes, Rev. Martin gave one of the impassioned sermons for which he was noted. In it he referred with great eloquence to the religious persecutions which their forefathers had endured not only in Ulster but also in Scotland and England in earlier days; he detailed clearly their present economic distress as well as the reasons for it, concluding that their condition would only worsen; and he then proposed that the entire congregation migrate with him to South Carolina." -- Story from Jean Stephenson, Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772 (Rev. William Martin and His Five Shiploads of Settlers), Washinton, D.C., 1971, p. 2.
Rev. William Martin was licensed in Scotland by the Reformed Presbyterians on 10 October 1756, and installed as pastor in County Antrim in 1757 on the lower Bann River. "He was thoroughly aware of economic conditions and by 1772 had probably been thinking of mgrating to America for some time. Also, he received a call from a group in South Carolina."
"Five ships had to be engaged to transport Martin's party which included about 1,100 people. The ships sailed at different times from different ports, and as was customary, the times of sailing were delayed for various reasons. In the order of their departure, these ships were the James and Mary, Lord Dunluce, Pennsylvania Farmer (the ship on which the Grahams sailed), Hopewell, and Free Mason."
"Pennsylvania Farmer, 350 tons,... finally sailed from Belfast on 16 October 1772, arriving at Charleston on 19 Decmber 1772. This was the only one of five ships which advertised single berths. Passengers in addition to the Grahams include those named McDill, McKee (NOTE: Janet McKee and her brothers may be included in this group), Mebin (Maben) (NOTE: other relatives), McCollough, Wiley, and Brown." (Source cited: Janie Revill, A Compilation of the Original Lists of Protestant Immigrants to South Carolina, 1763-1773, Columbia, S.C. The State Company, 1939, pp. 125-6.)
"Presumably, as each group arrived in Charleston they waited for the others, although where so large a group lodged is an interesting question which cannot be answered. South Carolina had a land grant policy, and on 6 January 1773 most of the heads of families and single adults in Martin's party went together before South Carolina's General Assembly to request land. Thus an invaluable listing of their names exits in South Carolina's records. They were listed according to the ships on which they had sailed, and each list began with the names of those few who could pay the fees of about 5 pounds per hundred acres followed by the names of those who could not pay (called "poor persons"). Most could not pay. The policy was to give warrants for one hundred acres to every unmarried adult man and woman and one hundred acres to every married man plus fifty acres apiece for each member of his household, including servants." (p 16)
Although Martin's group probably expected to settle together as a community, they did not all receive warrants for land in the same area, and were split up. "Four Grahams received warrants. David Graham, who was able to pay the fees, applied for four hundred acres. His three oldest children, Andrew, Jean, and Matthew, who could not pay, received warrants for one hundred acres apiece which meant they were single adults. The Grahams' warrants were for land in what was later southeast Chester County, and among others in the group whose warrants were for land in the same area were those named Jamieson, Cherry, McQuiston, Fairy, Maben (note: later family relatives), Strong, Wiley, Brown, McCreight, Harbison, and Stinson (Stevenson)... The Rev. William Martin's warrant was also for land in Chester County. "
"The Revolutionary War broke out in 1775, and increasing bitterness arose between the Patriots and Loyalists in the area, but not until the fall of Charleston in May 1780 and the British invasion of the backcountry did the area become a battlefield. In June 1780 Martin preached another of his impassioned sermons, and immediately after the service the men in his congregation formed two companies who joined the American forces. The British then burned the Convenanter meeting house and took Martin prisoner while he was in the act of preparing a second sermon urging resistance to England. "
p. 34: "Three Graham men, perhaps four, were actively involved in the Revolution. David Graham, the father, provided food and blacksmith services for the Patriots. Andrew Graham, David's oldest son, fought in at least two militias and provided beef for them. David also probably had a son named Matthew who may have fought and been killed, although no evidence of his doing so has been found. Almost nothing is known about Matthew except that he must have died between 1775 and 1778, and, given the events of the time, it seems possible that he was killed by some Tory. The Graham who was most deeply involved, however, was David's son James who was drafted in December 1778 at the age of seventeen, marched with the Patriots all over South Carolina, and was active in pursuing Tories after the war."
Also see : http://www.zekes.com/~dspidell/famresearch/ulster.html
In the early 1600's, the border between Scotland and England was in terrible trouble. It was impossible to live peacefully and normally. In order to survive, the border people became "Border Reevers" (Robbers) and turned their hands to cattle, stealing, kidnapping, protectionism and fraud. Because of their way of life, they made excellent frontiersmen, guerrilla fighters and scouts. [However, the English had no use for people with such professions on their borders.] The most famous of these border clans were the Armstrongs, the Bells, the Grahams, and the Johnstons.
Janet died before 1809 in Chester Co., South Carolina. She married David GRIMBS GRAHAM about 1753 in Ireland.
s: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-1989" pages 61-64
Due to difference in ages of 4th and 5th child, Janet assumed to be 2nd wife.
(1: Possibly second wife of David), (2: Could be Jane Auchincloss, married 15 Jun 1734 in Govan, Lanark, Scotland, or Jane Auchincloss, married 3 Jul 1734 in Barony, Lanark, Scotland, or Jennet Jowie married 24 Aug 1744 in Saint Nenians, Sterling, Scotland, or Janet Park [most likely] married 20 Jun 1750 in Govan, Lanark, Scotland, (Order of children as found in Philip G's David Graham of SC p64), (7: Husband's will 2 Apr 1795 prov 18 Nov 1800 file 21-315 Chester Co SC; names wife Jennet, ch:Andrew, Jean - Samuel Adams; James, Janet - David Boys/Boyse/Boyce, John, Mary, Margaret;), (8: ..also instructs that he is to be buried by John & Mary Graham).
They had the following children:
M i Andrew GRIMBS Graham was born about 1753. He died on 11 Mar 1821. F ii Jean Jane GRIMBS was born in 1754/1758. She died in 1820/1822. M iii Matthew GRIMBS was born in Antrim, Ireland. He died in 1775/1778 in South Carolina.
David Grimbs arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 19 December 1772. In January, 1773 he was granted 400 acres of land in Chester County, South Carolina. The land grant gives his name as David Grimbs, See Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772: (Rev. William Martin and His Five Shiploads of Settlers) by Jean Stephenson, page 74. Three of his children, Andrew, Jean and Matthew Grimbs, received 100 acres each.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~merle/Rm/PaFarmer.htm
Later, the family started using the name Graham rather than Grimbs. This has caused controversy among genealogists.
s: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-
1989" page 64 and 81-82
aka Mathew GrahamM iv James GRAHAM was born in 1761. He died in 1837. M v John GRAHAM was born before 1767. He died in 1809. F vi Jennet GRAHAM was born about 1769. She died on 10 Mar 1849. F vii Mary GRAHAM was born in County Antrim, Ireland. She died in 1822 in Chester Co., South Carolina.
s: Book "DAVID GRAHAM OF CHESTER COUNTY, S.C., AND HIS DESCENDANTS 1772-1989" page 64 and 89
d. between 1/21/1822 (will date) and 10/7/1822 (date of probate)
Apparently never marriedF viii Margaret GRAHAM was born in 1775/1780. She died on 8 Dec 1835.